Ok, now I am convinced this action of the Dutch was made from emotion duress and nothing to do with anything smart or calculated. It’s why they seem to be folding so easily after a few days of being on a high. I think China should have a good time wrecking their collective shit while I sit there and enjoy my tea
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It can still happen but interesting how Europe isn't racing to head-off Canada since a decision is pending. That would tell you something if there was some organized attempt for the West to gang-up against China. What happened to all the talk of Canada joining the EU? Look at how US allies have closed themselves off so that Trump can make outrageous demands of them. That wouldn't have the same effect if they didn't do that. But then white supremacist beliefs are very strong but then they ain't salvaging anything if they think this saves Western domination of the world.
Yeah Canada will face the same consequences they are now from Trump if they violate Trump's rewriting of NAFTA so what does Canada have to lose? Canada has to worry about their auto industry where they have no domestic cars of their own already being attacked with multilayer tariffs from crisscrossing borders in the process just so an American auto company can sell their cars and profit...
If you read the article
No where did it actually say it in the way it's written. China just basically says it's always open to trade talks with the US, not specifically talks on rare earth export conditions, at CNBC is missing it sound like China is walking back, which it is not
Westerners have always been projecting their weird psychosexual fantasies onto Chinese. Seriously who the hell comes up with “sideways vaginas”?
I’ll bet the western elites are really wishing they hadn’t started the trade war with China,
Of course I was not part of that audience.
Then okay, let me say this.
The time of that speech, was in the 1990's right. Lee Kwan Yiu already retired I believe.
Singapore was kicked out in the 1960's and Lee was the leader.
Then he got work, he was a good leader, built the nation, took advantage of geo-political events to build Singapore.
The point is, Lee Kwan Yiu was really famous by then, after building the country for decades. Everyone knew who he was, and his worldview. Not only that, we also knew who liked him, and who did not like him, because of his worldview.
Also, something obvious you omit, because either you are not aware of this history, or whatever the reason may be, but Singapore rose with the other places and were referred to as the four dragons.
Back then, they still used to discuss American capitalism, how it rose, and most people who studied it attributed to the Protestant Work Ethic. One factor at least, why American capitalism was so durable and strong.
Now Japan, then the four tigers, of Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore, they were not Protestants. Still they worked hard, and was able to advance their societies, with capitalism. One term that came about from that was Confucian Capitalism, which really is pointing to their factors for success. This was East Asian Economic Miracle, and Lee Kwan Yiu Singapore was right in the middle of it.
So I do not know what you are saying. The four tigers, the people who succeeded, and their societies succeeded, where not Protestants and did not hold that worldview. They more or less had a traditional worldview and belief system, although influenced by Western thought, some people accepted more of it, some people accepted less, some rejected all of it. There was not universal idea or view of how Chinese people thought, but the base was still the same, which was traditional.
There was another saying back then, that English said, from the Economist Magazine, said that Hong Kong had freedom but no democracy, but under Lee Kwan Yiu, Singapore had democracy but no freedom. So you know, these were Asian societies, and not Western societies. They borrowed and used what they saw fit for themselves.
This was not wholesale copying. We knew that. It was just the reality of it. But, the West would still give its lecture. Lee Kwan Yiu would call them out on it. That is why he was different. He was a trained lawyer in Britain, so first minister Lee just knew how to hit them as hard as he could, lol.
Okay, not even sure what I am talking about now, trying to address your concerns. Starting to ramble.
All I really want to say, is have some confidence.
We had it, back then, even though we were kind of weak, still we did not meekly submit to whatever. That goes for individuals and societies.
So, okay, now I remember what we are talking about. Lee Kwan Yiu expressed this confidence in Asian values, that the people of the four tigers had too, given the success for their societies, back in those days. This is something you will never hear about or read about in Western sources, because they are dirty cheats.
That is what they are, dirty cheats.
Lee Kwan Yiu loved talking about Asian values, that was why he was so disliked and hated by some in the West. Haha! Haha! Now I remember.
And, who in East Asia, like Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, do not like Asian values? A white person might question that once in a while. Who are kidding? They do that all the time. Give me fucking break!
So, to conclude again, in my mind, in this context, which was known by everyone, in those days, as too much history already happened for the four tigers, Lee makes his in your face remarks to Patten and people laugh.
Asian values!
One footnote, the rise of the four tigers in the East Asian Economic Miracle was a very significant story back in the day.
What happened next, was China happened next, that is why no one talks about that anymore.
But the same questions were always there, why did the four tigers rise the way it did?
Often people went for the easy explanation, which was cheap labour. But labour was cheap in other places, Africa, India, and they could do anything. Why did it happen for the four tigers? They made it.
When Lee made these remarks in that video, these were rich societies, who were dirty poor, but now rich, and probably more than half of the people in that room were millionaires, sort of like the Trump cabinet.
Context is important, I guess.
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