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Chevalier

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This unification is very loose at best because tensions still rise primarily in Balkans (aka powder keg of europe) and central europe (Good luck getting Slovaks and Romanians to like Hungarians). Don't forget Hungarians, Finnish and Estonians get memed as Mongols due to being Uralic-Finnic people who come from the urals aka mongolia according to the eurotards.
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A slovak meme form a HOI4 mod.
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I also forget that in Switzerland they hate the EU migration scheme because they're to many foreigners despite being culturally and linguistically identical to the first 3 flags on the list.
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The Europeans and west are divided but you have to be careful on what they are divided over. In economics and business, you can pit a European firm against an American one, but when it comes to say women and war, they always close ranks. White privilege and white supremacy is their only common ground which is why the Anglos of the five eyes make such a big deal about whiteness in an effort to turn themselves into a new Roman Empire With themselves at the head.

Now, looking back at history, do you know why the Romans prevailed in the Punic wars? Not just because of men and resources or the legion, they also treated every war against Carthage as an existential war and I am pleased to see that the CPC appears to treat the American threat as a threat on par with that of the Xiongnu. There was no major victory against the Xiongnu, rather than Han dynasty committed itself to a centuries long war of attrition and dividing and conquering until they were expelled. In the modern day of nuclear weapons, this could take the form of the current Cold War, an ”all of society” war as the U.S. NSA official Kieron Skinner let slip.

 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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NO! Stating historical facts and the atrocities and crimes done to Chinese people is fundamentally a moral right and a basic respect towards humanity, those statements should be rightfully said with ZERO pushbacks. Saying this is a wedge to relations is as ridiculous as saying Anti-Nazism is driving a wedge towards Germany and Japan, so people should just accept not being an Anti-Nazi if we want to be friends with them. That is absolutely bogus, any equal relations are formed on the basis of mutual respect towards history and human dignity, so why should our history and dignity be whitewash and denied for the basis of this relationship??? You know what is actually driving a wedge between China and Russia? that would be Russia itself:

1. the Russian government's constant alignment with India and doing things that harms the interest of China. ALSO the irrational distrust of Chinese people and jealousy towards the current development of China despite nothing to justify this, (even more ironic that historically they are the one whole stole from us, not the other way round, this is the typical 恶人先告状 guilty conscience). The Russian people will not tell you this straight away, but the general opinions of China and Chinese among Russian people already speak volumes (most are negative and full of distrust, projecting their imperialist nature on us, viewing our development as something malicious which are completely unfounded and showed their lack of self-awareness towards their own past. This yellow peril thinking just strengthens the idea that leopard never change its spots: they were once a colonial empire like the UK and US after all). I've seen this myself firsthand when interacting with Russians.

2. the Russian government as well as its people's constant whitewashing and denying the crimes and atrocities done towards Chinese people. This probably also stems from their education. Just literally talk to any REAL Russian person, or go to any Russian sites like Pikabu or VK, most Russian people straight up denied the massacres they had done against Chinese people (such as 1900 Anti-Chinese pogroms, Hailanpao Massacre, JiangDong sixty four villages Massacre, The burning of Aigun, participation in the eight-nation alliance etc. etc.) claiming that none of those ever happened, they also denied they stole land from China and instead stating that the unequal treaties such as Treaty of Aigun and Convention of Peking are just "Russians helping the Chinese to demarcate their borders" which is a complete revisionism of history, this is NO different from Japan ultra-rightwings completely denying their WW2 atrocities. Some even more twisted Russians even turned around and claimed that we stole their ZhenBao/"Damansky" island which is more than nonsensical. These are their true disgusting sentiments and if you guys talk to any real Russians or been on any Russian site, you will completely understand my anger! So please go ahead and open your eyes!

Also, Crimea situation is absolutely not comparable to South Tibet or other disputed regions, these kinds of disingenuous comparisons are only made by Russians and Anti-Chinese sinophobes alike. Those regions had been undisputedly Chinese for centuries, but were either invaded by foreign forces or propped up due to foreign infiltration. Meanwhile, even the most delusional Russian would tell you that Russia got Crimea by invading Ukraine, a country recognized as a sovereign nation even by Russia itself. (p.s. Whether this invasion is justified or not due to NATO expansionism is a completely different conversation to have, although frankly I would caution myself from giving full support to Russia considering that "protecting Russian speakers we settled there" had always been Russian traditional playbook for invasion, they used the same exact settler-colonialism tactics when they invaded Yili City and stole our Outer-Xinjiang regions such as the Lake Balkhash and greater Tian Shan region as well. As much as I hate NATO, I also cannot fully condone Russia's BS out of my conscience. This is a complex topic in itself.)

Your comment is the typical victim blaming type sentiment, which is a shame and a tight slap to the face of all the countless Chinese people who spilled blood at the hands of the evil Russian/USSR imperialist. Why should their cries be covered up for it not to be consider a "wedge" towards Russia??? Why could we not even bring to light the history where our people were bullied and massacred??? and in that case is this relationship still based on mutual respect and equality???

And conversely, why does Russia's present day geopolitical games and distrust against China, general yellow peril sentiments among Russian populations and officials, and the outright whitewashing, denial and revisionism of historic crimes against the Chinese people not considered a Russian "wedge" towards China relations??? Have you asked yourself that???

There should absolutely be no reason that one should not speak about historical facts. I will always be here to remind about the right facts and history of our people until the day when all the wrongs done to us had been righted. I do not care you are USA, Russia, "current political friends" or Foes, distorting history and having deep-rooted racist thinking behind our backs will never ever be tolerated by me. This is a fundamental principle.
Was China not an empire too? Everyone killed everyone else back then. Everyone else took land. That's the price of being weak. Don't sound like a Mongol nationalist. They whine all the time and sound pathetic for whining about China conquering Inner Mongolia.

They don't realize that by whining about China conquering and colonizing them they just make us feel more powerful.

The trap is to get caught up in morals. never get caught up in moral debates, they're all junk and subjective. Capability and immediate interest is what matters.
 

uguduwa

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i think it can go both ways. while there are some genuinely xenophobic people who are just genetically coded to have a low threshold on conspecific recognition -- they just can't accept how you look -- i think most cases of xenophobia is a product of rationalization. desperate people will look to externalize as many risk factors as possible, and that's when you see scapegoating emerge. so economic pain may bifuricate american sentiment between more well-to-do upper middle class who are less impacted and can more clearly see the causal relationships, and a lower class that wants to make sure that they're not the one drawing the short straw. of course an additional factor will be opportunistic upper class that falls into line with trump because they clearly see less gain in rebellious efforts.

For one thing Trump didn‘t win entitely because of whites but because of minority votes. I doubt republicans will get another chance like this. And the next point to make it is that you could imagine xenophobia rising if economic pain is caused under a left-wing government but today, it‘s openly racist party that‘s causing economic pain. I too am curious to see the outcome but I still think the US would go back to normal after this madness.
 

Temstar

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Seems Bessent can't handle Li Chenggang. They say he appeared uninvited to an economic negotiation with the US where he has a major role representing China? Do they think they can pick our vice commerce minister? LOL Where's Ron Vara? Didn't they send him to Japan for the Plaza Accords and the Japanese had to take it when he threw paper planes at them to mock their helplessness? Now they talk about disrespect?

"Bessent also on Wednesday singled out a Chinese vice commerce minister, Li Chenggang, for particular criticism, referencing comments he made during an August visit to Washington. He said Li had shown up “uninvited.”

“Perhaps the vice minister who showed up here with very incendiary language on August 28 has gone rogue,” Bessent said during the press conference at Treasury. “This individual was very disrespectful,” he said, after earlier calling him “unhinged” in the CNBC event.

I truly wonder if Bessent is stupid enough to believe the things he says or if he knows what he's saying is retarded but he's gotta say something and that's just the best he can come up with in light of the irony of America being proven a trade war glass cannon.
Word on weibo on what happened is during the meeting between Bessent and Li, Li picked up the phone right then and called up MOFCOM back home and told them to sanction Nvidia. Then after putting the phone down he then asked his translator to translate what he just said over the phone into english for Bessent.

Bessent was extremely triggered by this.
 

supercat

Colonel
Scott Bessett threatens China with up to 500% tariffs for buying Russian oil.

You better prove it to us that it's not another bluff.
American elites are not well educated and are poorly informed. Bessent probably never heard of the Power of Siberia 2.

Why China holds the upper hand:

Trade, tech and Treasuries: China holds cards in US tariff stand-off​

Planning, diversified markets and control of strategic materials potentially give Beijing leverage — if it can bear the pain
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Michael Pettis, nuff said.
 

Chevalier

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Come now who isn’t using AI for work these days? We are living in the 90s future where we can say “Computer! Calculate probability of success of and pincer strategy on that enemy position” like Star Trek or what wolfram alpha sold itself as being back in the 2000s. Military simulations do use computer programs and many of us grew up with RTS games as our first learning of war gaming.


The American civil war between elite factions and MAGA continues, besides Hegseths media loyalty oaths, the trumpists are purging the deep state that tried to kill trump.
 

taxiya

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@taxiya

I think you can Europe as an counter-factual example.

Suppose after 2000 years of mixing, everyone in Europe now identifies as "Roman" or "European".

There is now a single national language, such as Latin or English.
You still identify with your province eg. France or Germany.
And you have local language dialects such as French or German.

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That is an analog I always use "What if Roman empire lasted to 1900s". A little bit more (light hearted) expansion can be:

Latin is standard Mandarian. Italian being Hebei dialect, French and Spanish are all other northern and southwestern mandarian dialects. Germanic and Slavic Europeans would be mutually unintelligible dialects in south and southeastern China.

The existing peoples have largely remained in place, but you can see the assimilation.
That is unlikely to happen because for an empire to remain unified, moving around population is certain to happen in large scale, due to wars, conquest etc. This movement will then lead to mixing by blood. You can even see this result in Europe and Turkey already. Due to the Roman rule of Asia minor, lots of eastern Turkish around Istanbul have very high genetic makeups from Europeans like Greek and Romans. If Rome lasted to early 1900s like China did, I am sure that you will see the same mixing effect in whole Europe.

Important to keep in mind in the analog is that Rome and Roman are in place of China and Chinese, they should not be equate to Latin speakers from Italian peninsula. Because when Latin Rome fall, Germanic rulers tried to restore Rome just like Mongols and Manchus succeeded in restoring a Chinese empire. In the same way these "foreign" Romans would settle in Italy and mix with Latin people. So in my mind it will be a precise copy of the east, a dominate culture and people identified as Roman with a very diverse genetic makeup.
 
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Chevalier

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Word on weibo on what happened is during the meeting between Bessent and Li, Li picked up the phone right then and called up MOFCOM back home and told them to sanction Nvidia. Then after putting the phone down he then asked his translator to translate what he just said over the phone into english for Bessent.

Bessent was extremely triggered by this.
Gotta aura farm to get the point across to these barbarian tribes.

as a follow up this sounds very trump coded as revenge for Russia gate and having Mar a Lago raided with feds sniffing malenias panties.
 
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