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Colonel
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I'm not interested in Gen Z style debates. Throwing around words like "gaslighting" doesn't mean you have an argument. My point is clear: if China decides on adventurism then it's in for a tough time and it will lose the good will it has spent time building. It is as simple and incontestable as that.

I don't think so.

This is how it is going to go down, as they use to say on the streets.

It will happen old school style. First isolation, then attack. If required.

The if required part probably is the key part. But first, isolation of the would be enemy is the number one priority.

So under those conditions, an isolated enemy, that offends China, then the PLA and military will throw its weight around.

Under different circumstances, it will not happen.
 

Chevalier

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History has a long list of no longer existent groups who mistakes China being peaceful for China being pacifist. China doesn't attack first but China also never forgive. Revenge no matter how long the wait is held as core principle in Chinese culture, and when China takes revenge it tend to be total and merciless.
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Chinese culture is actually very old school, akin to the paterfamilias vendettas of Ancient Rome. The right of vengeance is lauded still in Chinese society compared to the slave morality of western values which inculcates a slave mindset amongst its people to maintain its feudal power structure.


whether true or not, this is realpolitik; as real as soviets dismantling factories in Manchuria to send to Russia.
 

GulfLander

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Chinese culture is actually very old school, akin to the paterfamilias vendettas of Ancient Rome. The right of vengeance is lauded still in Chinese society compared to the slave morality of western values which inculcates a slave mindset amongst its people to maintain its feudal power structure.


whether true or not, this is realpolitik; as real as soviets dismantling factories in Manchuria to send to Russia.
Are they trying to wegde the 2?
 

4Tran

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Nationalism or chauvanism is good for nation when you are really strong enough. It's also nationalism that bring china together today.
Chauvinism is always a bad idea. It advocates for overreach, and fosters unhealthy attitudes. Hell, it's basically the disease that infected the Americans, and I'd much rather it doesn't happen to China.

Are they trying to wegde the 2?
It feels like there's been a concerted effort to do that but it's pretty useless. Russia absolutely needs China if they want to continue fighting Ukraine, and China is way better off with a strong Russia kicking around. It almost feels like they're just saying things that their audience wants to hear again.
 

TPenglake

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There are nationalists everywhere. The difference is that in China, the CPC reins them in. Whereas in the West those nationalists are effectively encouraged by their government to pillage and plunder.
Case in point, the debacle over the K-Visa. It's not even a "smart policy" ala 4d chess move, its just a pure logical reaction to America closing its doors off to skilled immigration that even Canada and the EU are exploiting. And it's a policy that will be pursued regardless of how much scaremongering ultranationalists peddle online about Beijing becoming 50% Indian in the future and Tiannamen Square becoming a giant Friday night Bhangra dance floor. (Although Douyin vids of public space dance offs between Indian expats and Chinese aunties sounds kinda lit, not going to lie lol)
 

manqiangrexue

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Are they trying to wegde the 2?
You ever seen a man's final moments when his gun's out of bullets, his knife is snapped in half, his leg is broken from a fall and he's trapped in a dead end with a grizzly bear closing in on him? He doesn't do many useful things at that point but he does try many things, or rather, the same useless things many times. This is the nation version of that.
 
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Randomuser

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Case in point, the debacle over the K-Visa. It's not even a "smart policy" ala 4d chess move, its just a pure logical reaction to America closing its doors off to skilled immigration that even Canada and the EU are exploiting. And it's a policy that will be pursued regardless of how much scaremongering ultranationalists peddle online about Beijing becoming 50% Indian in the future and Tiannamen Square becoming a giant Friday night Bhangra dance floor. (Although Douyin vids of public space dance offs between Indian expats and Chinese aunties sounds kinda lit, not going to lie lol)
Like I said. The policy's intention has nothing really wrong. Its just the execution of it.

Its amazing how just a few groups can ruin something for the rest of the world.
 

resistance

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Chinese culture is actually very old school, akin to the paterfamilias vendettas of Ancient Rome. The right of vengeance is lauded still in Chinese society compared to the slave morality of western values which inculcates a slave mindset amongst its people to maintain its feudal power structure.


whether true or not, this is realpolitik; as real as soviets dismantling factories in Manchuria to send to Russia.
I'm agree. Also he's right.
Chauvinism is always a bad idea. It advocates for overreach, and fosters unhealthy attitudes. Hell, it's basically the disease that infected the Americans, and I'd much rather it doesn't happen to China.
Chauvinism is normal human behavior. Common enemies made nation united and people motivated
 
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uguduwa

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I call BS. You don’t have to be Indian to be pro India
all your comments are very skewed towards pro India.
at least many here don’t pretend to be absolutely unbiased here
I support the underdog just like I supported China during its early days of industrialization.
 
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