proelite
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It can find them domestically but that'll require too much investment in the future of the country.
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Got to give it to 4chan for the creative and somewhat appropriate operation name, all the while poking at a meme and sore spot.
Perhaps it's a good thing, the high skilled brainy Indians escape the US sinking ship and instead lends their talents to reinvigorating the Japanese economy instead. Japanese and Indian culture have a great deal in common, indeed Japanese culture originally came from India, and many great samurais were actually Indian. Beyond cultural similarity and democratic values; India and Japan are economically and demographically very complementary. What Japan lacks in spunk and numbers, India has aplenty. India could double or triple the population of Japan overnight, transforming Japan's flaccid economy into an innovative thriving superpower, far overshadowing China's tottering authoritarian economy.
And Bhakts will find a way to blame China for this.
Between the incels and the Indians, I still prefer dealing with Indians. Never forget that the incels outright discriminate against Chinese when they are given even the tiniest hint of power and will go out of their way to spite you as seen above.
Having dealt with both, Indians don't offend me personally because I can avoid them and they'll just do their thing and I do mine. The incels will actively get in your way and undermine you. Utterly insufferable.
If the Indian male incel masses could take total ownership of Japan's female reproductive rights, Japan's population would hit 1 billion within one generation.
Sounds like you've never met an Indian incel. I've heard from a trusted SDF source that they'll rape men too.
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AssassinsMace
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I loves me a conspiracy theory. I was wondering why all these threats from the government against people just for talking away from the “official” narrative that’s out there like reporting co-workers to get them fired. It makes it look more like a conspiracy. It does seem like an on the fly story the FBI made up.
For the most part, Trump's policies in his first term were more reputationally damaging to the US rather than having any lasting impact on its strategic primacy, but this time around he's actually directly attacking the pillars of American power with his attacks on universities and now this H1-B fiasco.
People are seriously discussing a post-American tech order and what it will look like. Combing the internet these are the impressions I get. For the most part, what people can agree at least for now is that all the talent that would've gone to the US will stay in their home countries. Everything else is up in the air.
For one, Silicon Valley's success was down to things like the amount of VC funding available for startups and the talent pool it drew globally, as well as locally from Stanford and UC Berkeley. But more to the point Silicon Valley had a culture of, sorry for being redundant, cultural tolerance, risk taking, entrepenurial spirit, and outside the box thinking, that no where else was able to copy. Even when red states were dangling the carrot of low taxes and cheap property values, and NYC was dangling the carrot of an exciting big city life to contrast the boring suburbia of Silicon Valley, culture was something neither was able to offer and that's why the crown of tech was still firmly Silicon Valley's.
If Trump really does kill the golden goose, is building a new Silicon Valley just like California's possible elsewhere? First, lets look at the EU, the most likely candidates are Germany, Switzerland, or the Netherlands. Most citizens from there though shoot the idea down immediately. For one, there's language. Despite the English proficiency of the aforementioned countries, you cannot survive professionally on just English alone. So, maybe it go to the UK? No, the UK and those aforementioned countries, all share the same issue of lack of VC funding, bureaucracy, excessively focusing on what they have rather than chasing the future, and a culture that is not geared towards outside the box thinking or risk taking. So, count them out.
Japan has been technogically and economically stagnant for decades, is hostile to immigration, and has a corporate culture that's notoriously suffocating to its own natives nevermind foreigners. So count them out.
So really, stating the obvious, that just leaves China. There are some issues in my opinion, beyond the cultural and language barriers. China shares some of the same problems as the EU such as the lack of VC funding. Although perhaps not as bad, the culture of risk taking and outside the box thinking still very much pales compared to SV. That and the fact that although there are exceptions, Chinese corporate culture is still pretty top down heavy. And yet, most agree that China even if its not the next best candidate, really is the only viable one. China makes up for a lot of its shortcomings such as VC funding and cultural issues, with the amount of state backing tech gets. The government pumps a lot of R&D funding into tech, is quite adept at spotting new tech trends and steering the nation towards them, gives tax breaks to companies that are considered innovative, and are willing to make living accomodations for non-Chinese high value talent. I do think some issues will remain and China won't attract nearly the same scale of immigration that SV did, but China can offset this as well due to its monstrously large domestic pool of engineers.
So really, rather than a "new Silicon Valley," I think what will happen is just a continuation of the current trend of multipolarity. Most parts of the world like the EU and India will see incremental improvements in their tech economies with their talent retention, but can only build on what's already there. In that regard, China just based on its sheer scale and what they've already accomplished, even if it won't attract talent to the same extent that SV did, will still inevitably lead the pack in an increasingly fragmented world.
People are seriously discussing a post-American tech order and what it will look like. Combing the internet these are the impressions I get. For the most part, what people can agree at least for now is that all the talent that would've gone to the US will stay in their home countries. Everything else is up in the air.
For one, Silicon Valley's success was down to things like the amount of VC funding available for startups and the talent pool it drew globally, as well as locally from Stanford and UC Berkeley. But more to the point Silicon Valley had a culture of, sorry for being redundant, cultural tolerance, risk taking, entrepenurial spirit, and outside the box thinking, that no where else was able to copy. Even when red states were dangling the carrot of low taxes and cheap property values, and NYC was dangling the carrot of an exciting big city life to contrast the boring suburbia of Silicon Valley, culture was something neither was able to offer and that's why the crown of tech was still firmly Silicon Valley's.
If Trump really does kill the golden goose, is building a new Silicon Valley just like California's possible elsewhere? First, lets look at the EU, the most likely candidates are Germany, Switzerland, or the Netherlands. Most citizens from there though shoot the idea down immediately. For one, there's language. Despite the English proficiency of the aforementioned countries, you cannot survive professionally on just English alone. So, maybe it go to the UK? No, the UK and those aforementioned countries, all share the same issue of lack of VC funding, bureaucracy, excessively focusing on what they have rather than chasing the future, and a culture that is not geared towards outside the box thinking or risk taking. So, count them out.
Japan has been technogically and economically stagnant for decades, is hostile to immigration, and has a corporate culture that's notoriously suffocating to its own natives nevermind foreigners. So count them out.
So really, stating the obvious, that just leaves China. There are some issues in my opinion, beyond the cultural and language barriers. China shares some of the same problems as the EU such as the lack of VC funding. Although perhaps not as bad, the culture of risk taking and outside the box thinking still very much pales compared to SV. That and the fact that although there are exceptions, Chinese corporate culture is still pretty top down heavy. And yet, most agree that China even if its not the next best candidate, really is the only viable one. China makes up for a lot of its shortcomings such as VC funding and cultural issues, with the amount of state backing tech gets. The government pumps a lot of R&D funding into tech, is quite adept at spotting new tech trends and steering the nation towards them, gives tax breaks to companies that are considered innovative, and are willing to make living accomodations for non-Chinese high value talent. I do think some issues will remain and China won't attract nearly the same scale of immigration that SV did, but China can offset this as well due to its monstrously large domestic pool of engineers.
So really, rather than a "new Silicon Valley," I think what will happen is just a continuation of the current trend of multipolarity. Most parts of the world like the EU and India will see incremental improvements in their tech economies with their talent retention, but can only build on what's already there. In that regard, China just based on its sheer scale and what they've already accomplished, even if it won't attract talent to the same extent that SV did, will still inevitably lead the pack in an increasingly fragmented world.