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Lethe

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taxiya said:
It is confirmed that the switches were turned to off soon after takeoff then turned back based on black box and cockpit audio recording. The switch has locking mechanism to prevent accidental push. The interesting part is that the two switches are turned off with an one-second gap which suggests against accidentally turned in case the locking mechanism is not engaged. It is also puzzling that one of the pilots denying (accidentally or intentionally) turning off the switches, however this denial could be caused by a reflex of denial or honestly mind-blanking in panic.

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Investigators were able to get data out of the black boxes, including 49 hours of flight data and two hours of cockpit audio, including the crash.

The aircraft had reached an airspeed of 180 knots when both engines’ fuel cutoff switches were “transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec,” according to the report.

“In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so,” the report reads.


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The full preliminary report is available
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8:08:39: Take off
8:08:42: Fuel cut off switches moved from Run to Cutoff with a 1 sec gap
8:08:47: RAT begins supplying power
8:08:52 ENG 1 switched from Cutoff to Run
8:08:54 APU inlet door began to open
8:08:56 ENG 2 switched from Cutoff to Run
8:09:11 Recording ends

As you say, the one-second gap argues against failure of the electro-mechanical switching apparatus. Also undermined is the theory that the switches were cycled as part of the crew's response to another failure (as the preliminary report makes no reference to such). The explanations that remain plausibly open are deliberate action, or catastrophic error.

While the urge is always for more data and certainty, and certainly the full readout of the Cockpit Voice Recorder would be interesting, the preliminary report does address and exclude some other possibilities that were raised in the wake of the incident, such as flaps not being set correctly for take-off (they were) and fuel contamination issues (tested ok). It is also confirmed that APU was in start-up sequence and the RAT was deployed and operating.
 
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FriedRiceNSpice

FriedRiceNSpice

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Bellum_Romanum said:
As I have long believed, the unraveling of the American world order and the ensuing disarray among its allies—Canada included—demonstrate that America is struggling with how to appropriately compete with an adversary unlike any it has faced in its history as a Republic. The Soviet Union, despite its military might, was never the economic juggernaut that China is today, nor did it possess the population heft or market size that China commands. This is evident as we can witness in real time through the current American-led tariff war, where China is the only country that has meaningfully impacted the U.S. negatively. In technology, finance, diplomatic influence, economic leverage, and trade, the competition is frankly between these two superpowers.
Americans, including Canadians of all stripes, arrogantly assumed that China's opening up would succumb to the appeal of what we presumed were the everlasting virtues of becoming a 'democracy.' Had China followed this path, it might have resembled a giant Philippines or, worse, a very corrupt and dysfunctional India.
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America's decline is inevitable primarily due to internal reasons, and would occur this century regardless of the rise of China. Perhaps China's rise may have expedited or accelerated America's decline, but it would be more accurate to view these two trends as coincidental in nature rather than having any casual relationship.
 
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FriedRiceNSpice said:
America's decline is inevitable primarily due to internal reasons, and would occur this century regardless of the rise of China. Perhaps China's rise may have expedited or accelerated America's decline, but it would be more accurate to view these two trends as coincidental in nature rather than having any casual relationship.
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I disagree. If it wasn't for China's rise America would still be able to trod along for quite a while. Look at what's going on, even with all its problems and dysfunctions its vassals are still trying to hug its nuts and refuse to stand up for themselves. China was the only country that could stand up to America on its own and that's saying something. Time is running out for them and they know it.
 
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