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plawolf

plawolf

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Randomuser said:
There are clearly some double agents at the top level who are giving out all the secrets to Israel. Its impossible that Israel knows all this stuff so clearly.

Or Iran is clearly incompetent and refuses to accept where it currently is.

One is lucky. Twice might still have a reason. Third time is just their fault.
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That, and also Iran is too naive in trusting the UN and ‘international’ organisations. Note the recent revelation that the head of the IAEA has been actively helping the Israelis to identify key Iranian nuclear scientists for assassination.

Iran is a basket case that is massively compromised by a significant proportion of its population having drank too deeply the western Kool Aid and became wannabe Anglos thinking as soon as they yield to all of the wests crazy demands they will get accepted into the ‘master race’ club and become kings of the ME.

But war, especially wars of aggression by foreign powers, has a funny way of uniting people and clearing their thinking. So let’s see if the Iranians have the backbone and steel to actually properly fight the Israelis and Americans and inflict real pain and damage on their enemies. If they can prove they can fight, then China may well decide supplying Iran with lethal aid to bleed the Americans is a worthy investment. Otherwise they will go the same way as Assad and Syria. The world has no time for weaklings who can’t or won’t help themselves, it’s the most core and fundamental rule of natural evolution. Humans and nations are not exempt.
 
Randomuser

Randomuser

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plawolf said:
That, and also Iran is too naive in trusting the UN and ‘international’ organisations. Note the recent revelation that the head of the IAEA has been actively helping the Israelis to identify key Iranian nuclear scientists for assassination.

Iran is a basket case that is massively compromised by a significant proportion of its population having drank too deeply the western Kool Aid and became wannabe Anglos thinking as soon as they yield to all of the wests crazy demands they will get accepted into the ‘master race’ club and become kings of the ME.

But war, especially wars of aggression by foreign powers, has a funny way of uniting people and clearing their thinking. So let’s see if the Iranians have the backbone and steel to actually properly fight the Israelis and Americans and inflict real pain and damage on their enemies. If they can prove they can fight, then China may well decide supplying Iran with lethal aid to bleed the Americans is a worthy investment. Otherwise they will go the same way as Assad and Syria. The world has no time for weaklings who can’t or won’t help themselves, it’s the most core and fundamental rule of natural evolution. Humans and nations are not exempt.
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It really ticks me off hearing people whine about how China has to help everyone esp nations who can't help themselves. Dude, China has enough problems trying to help itself here. Money doesn't grow on trees over there so any extra money China gives out has to be done carefully. You don't recklessly throw money at any stock to buy now do you?

And before you go muh US, why do you think the US is in so much pain right now? The US has so much damn money due to its size, position, geography, away from war etc. And yet somehow we have seen the US blow through it all at record speed like a crack addict. So many failed investments in just the middle east alone. Its just we haven't lived long enough to see the long term effect of all these failed investments the US made taking effect just yet.

We are talking trillions of dollars in bad investments here. Even the US with all its money cannot ignore that sort of loss. For anyone else, those sort of losses will probably bankrupt a country.
 
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sheogorath

sheogorath

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Randomuser said:
It really ticks me off hearing people whine about how China has to help everyone esp nations who can't help themselves. Dude, China has enough problems trying to help itself here. Money doesn't grow on trees over there so any extra money China gives out has to be done carefully. You don't recklessly throw money at any stock to buy now do you?

And before you go muh US, why do you think the US is in so much pain right now? The US has so much damn money due to its size, position, geography, away from war etc. And yet somehow we have seen the US blow through it all at record speed like a crack addict. So many failed investments in just the middle east alone. Its just we haven't lived long enough to see the long term effect of all these failed investments the US made taking effect just yet.
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There are things that could be done that don't involve getting in like the US does, not doing them is certainly a choice. At the end of the day one must accept that when it comes to Israel and the Middle East, all countries are cucks, some more than others.
 
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xypher

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Is Iran doing something to retaliate or will they just talk shit on Twitter, launch a telegraphed drone attack and be done with it like the last time? If it is the latter, then maybe they really should just surrender since they are evidently incapable of protecting their own people - Israel is freely striking and terrorizing Tehran, the capital of the country. It is basically a declaration of full-blown war.

Pragmatism and all that shit are good but there are times when you should just act decisively, risk calculations be damned. Sitting this out will just embolden Israel to bomb Iran like they do with Palestine and Iran will lose whatever shreds of influence it had in ME, because everyone will see that you can just strike Iran and assassinate its leadership, and all you'll get is angry tweets.
 
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iBBz

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Russia, China, and Iran are proving more and more to be toothless.

-Trump sends weapons to Taiwan, China goes like "We warn you. We will do this and this and that", and then they proceed to do absolutely nothing whatsoever.
-Trump strikes at Russia's nuclear triad, obliterating Tu-95s. Russia does absolutely nothing to demonstrate to the US that it's red lines are real.
-Trump strikes Iran and then promises a second strikes, and we know what Iran is going to do, a whole lot of nothing.

I think I have lost faith in the multipolar world. We are looking at multiple sides where one strikes anyone they want at will whenever, wherever, and however they want, while others watch like statues, then proceed to cry like bitches during UN events like "Waaaa waaaaa! We condemn this action and that action waaaaaaa!". Pathetic. Absolutely fucking pathetic.
 
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Minm

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Randomuser said:
It really ticks me off hearing people whine about how China has to help everyone esp nations who can't help themselves. Dude, China has enough problems trying to help itself here. Money doesn't grow on trees over there so any extra money China gives out has to be done carefully. You don't recklessly throw money at any stock to buy now do you?

And before you go muh US, why do you think the US is in so much pain right now? The US has so much damn money due to its size, position, geography, away from war etc. And yet somehow we have seen the US blow through it all at record speed like a crack addict. So many failed investments in just the middle east alone. Its just we haven't lived long enough to see the long term effect of all these failed investments the US made taking effect just yet.

We are talking trillions of dollars in bad investments here. Even the US with all its money cannot ignore that sort of loss. For anyone else, those sort of losses will probably bankrupt a country.
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That's why Pakistan and maybe Cambodia and Laos are the only countries that consider China a friend. If you're unwilling to invest, you won't have powerful friends. Simple
 
Randomuser

Randomuser

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Minm said:
That's why Pakistan and maybe Cambodia and Laos are the only countries that consider China a friend. If you're unwilling to invest, you won't have powerful friends. Simple
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Honestly that already sounds like quite a lot. Imagine having 10 of them and they all get trouble like Iran or Syria and start asking to you to bail them out one by one. Suddenly this friend thing doesn't sound so nice when huge liabilities are involved and it becomes a one sided relationship.
 
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