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How to make Chinese honeytraps 1000% more effective with this one trick government employees hate.
When those random countries lose, especially NATO ones, the one that benefits isn't US however. US always had access to whatever they want from them.
What's going to happen is that Trump will halt the value chain climbing for many third world countries. By doing so, he creates the self fulfilling prophecy USA fears the most, that China will tie all global south (and small NATO) nations into an empire-colony type relationship and no one will ever get out of Chinese dependence.
The likes of Vietnam or India or even EU are relying on US' market as an alternative to China, Trump is right that they "exploit" US in the sense that they use US' fears about China to upsell uncompetitive products. With US market gone, a country like Vietnam can no longer develop up the value chain. This means there won't be any alternate suppliers for US, instead most countries will be deindustrialized and get their revenue from selling raw resources to China.
China is on per person level 10-100x more productive than nearly all other countries, especially third world countries with inconsistent logistics and weak energy supply. So if tariffs apply (nearly) equally globally, countries will instead just move all the difficult (and high value adding) steps to China.
Again, it is utter stupidity because as even Biden realizes, US needs the whole world to have a chance at take on China. Weakening the world, even if it can grant some short term concessions to US from a few countries, is extremely not worth it if it destroys the only chances US has to make a non-China dependent supply chain.
There is no monetary concession big enough to compensate for losing the cold war. You can beat and shock your own henchmen all you want, make them sign over all their savings and humiliate themselves for you, it's not going to help you when the rival cartel soldiers are already outside your door and about to turn your face into a persian rug. At this moment, US should be giving their "allies" concessions to prepare them for the coming storm.
There are two things which are priceless in geopolitics, that is loyalty and industry. Loyalty is that you have people willing to compete for you. Industry is so that you can actually give those people the tools they need to compete competently. Biden understood this. Trump doesn't, and that's why even US nationalists feel instinctive unease about his moves.
My views on the current U.S. geopolitical and geo-economic actions goes as follows:
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The Trump administration has pursued aggressive geopolitical and geo-economic strategies, prioritizing rapprochement with Russia at the expense of Ukraine and European alliances. Public statements advocating for the annexation of Canada and Greenland—echoing Russia’s territorial expansionism—signal a shift toward consolidating resource-rich regions under a "Fortress America" framework. The recent "Liberation Day" tariffs, targeting nearly all U.S. trade partners except Russia, risk alienating ASEAN nations, many of which are already part of the RCEP agreement. This could accelerate their economic alignment with China, undermining U.S. efforts to counter Beijing’s dominance in a region already shaped by Chinese FDI and manufacturing outsourcing .
Simultaneously, Europe’s pledge to boost defense spending to €850 billion and calls for economic unity reflect a push toward continental self-reliance amid Russian threats. Meanwhile, states like the U.K., India, Australia, and New Zealand—geographically isolated or lacking resource advantages—face marginalization in this emerging bipolar order . The global landscape appears to fracture into continental blocs: a U.S.-Canada-Greenland alliance leveraging natural resources, a China-ASEAN economic sphere, and a defensively fortified Europe. Such fragmentation highlights how resource distribution and protectionist policies are redefining geopolitical power .
Here’s a revised version of your post with improved grammar, syntax, and clarity while preserving all key points:
The Trump administration has pursued aggressive geopolitical and geo-economic strategies, prioritizing rapprochement with Russia at the expense of Ukraine and European alliances. Public statements advocating for the annexation of Canada and Greenland—echoing Russia’s territorial expansionism—signal a shift toward consolidating resource-rich regions under a "Fortress America" framework. The recent "Liberation Day" tariffs, targeting nearly all U.S. trade partners except Russia, risk alienating ASEAN nations, many of which are already part of the RCEP agreement. This could accelerate their economic alignment with China, undermining U.S. efforts to counter Beijing’s dominance in a region already shaped by Chinese FDI and manufacturing outsourcing .
Simultaneously, Europe’s pledge to boost defense spending to €850 billion and calls for economic unity reflect a push toward continental self-reliance amid Russian threats. Meanwhile, states like the U.K., India, Australia, and New Zealand—geographically isolated or lacking resource advantages—face marginalization in this emerging bipolar order . The global landscape appears to fracture into continental blocs: a U.S.-Canada-Greenland alliance leveraging natural resources, a China-ASEAN economic sphere, and a defensively fortified Europe. Such fragmentation highlights how resource distribution and protectionist policies are redefining geopolitical power .
Any news on the TikTok saga?
Selling off 80% of US operation with license fees to ByteDance is kinda bad but not the worst deal. The problem is it sets a bad precedent not only for China but it will also set a bad precedent for other us/global tech/service firms. I think it would be a stupid deal if it was for the entire tik tok global operations though.
Selling off 80% of US operation with license fees to ByteDance is kinda bad but not the worst deal. The problem is it sets a bad precedent not only for China but it will also set a bad precedent for other us/global tech/service firms. I think it would be a stupid deal if it was for the entire tik tok global operations though.
SOUTH KOREA is apparently doomed due to its demographic collapse that's almost irreversible.
American delusions are incurable. ByteDance shut down TikTok for 24 hours without being asked just as a FU to America...
SEA might align with China after this round of tariffs but I get the feeling that Europe, Canada, Japan and SK might be thinking along the lines of appeasement with some PR moves amounting to exchanges of admonishments or just a slap on wrist, thinking it's just 4 years and things will be back to normal as "Trump is in his final term" and "he won't rewrite the constitution right?" and they will all ride into the sunset together once the next president is in.
Any investments into strategic autonomy might just end up as a nepo baby fund or money laundering for politicians.
Any investments into strategic autonomy might just end up as a nepo baby fund or money laundering for politicians.
Why do they keep on pushing this propaganda? No deal!
This sale (if true) could be the worst result for China. I can't think of a worse outcome from China's perspective.