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RedBaron

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De facto it lies somewhere between Palestine (more countrylike) and HTS/Idlib (pre December coup) (more civil war warlord like).

That is pretty far from a "regular" country either way.

Lately, America is sponsoring the propaganda that Taiwan is a country with the intent of legitimizing American territorial aggression. This is a very dangerous propaganda because it upends the post ww2 world order.

I think unless one wants to accelerate towards ww3, it is better to let only USAID talk about such things and try to ignore them. Hopefully, America will back down when they run out of money/realize they don't have the capability to invade. And that changing the ww2 established borders will not benefit them.
No, de facto Taiwan is pretty much an independent country. They fulfill all four criteria for statehood laid down by Montevideo Convention. Additionally, they have their own military, currency and authorities, they host foreign delegations, have de facto embassies on their soil disguised as cultural offices, host US troops on their soil without China's consent etc.

Taiwan is much more comparable to Somaliland, Kosovo, and Transistria than either Palestine or HTS/Idlib.

De iure Taiwan is still Chinese province, though, and it is China's responsibility to make sure that Taiwan's factual status matches its legal one.
 
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Biscuits

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No, de facto Taiwan is pretty much an independent country. They fulfill all four criteria for statehood laid down by Montevideo Convention. Additionally, they have their own military, currency and authorities, they host foreign delegations, have de facto embassies on their soil disguised as cultural offices, host US troops on their soil without China's consent etc.
Which is no different than the above cases? You know ISIS was issuing passports as well far before the "Free" Syrian army coup right?

De facto means recognition. And right now, de facto, the concept of Taiwan as an independent country doesn't even exist anywhere, the closest thing are nations supporting ROC as the leadership of all China.

All KMT forces subdivisions that you talk about are fraudulent imitations of their legit Chinese authority counterparts, for example Ministry of Foreign relations purports to represent everyone in China.
Taiwan is much more comparable to Somaliland, Kosovo, and Abkhazia than either Palestine or HTS/Idlib.

De iure Taiwan is still Chinese province, though, and it is China's responsibility to make sure that Taiwan's factual status matches its legal one.
The fringe territorial aggression propaganda started by US (mostly Biden regime) is so extremely dangerous because it threatens the very borders and world order decided by ww2.

If Taiwan can be a "country", then so could RK Ukraine or RK Moscowien. Or Polish People's Republic. That's why this propaganda shouldn't be taken lightly and absolutely not echoed in any form.
Why is China letting America (and Blackrock) own anything in China or indeed outside America in places that rely on Chinese trade at all? Confiscate all and use it to build the country instead.
 

RedBaron

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Trying to compare them to that is literal retardation.
No, it's not. Explain then, how is Taiwan more comparable to Palestine or frickin Idlib lmao ?

Palestine doesn't even meet Montevideo Convention criteria. No control over defined territory, no effective government. I won't even entertain Idlib comparison.

The examples I listed are all territories with admittedly various degree of international recognition (many countries recognize Kosovo, hardly anyone recognizes Somaliland) that have satisfied statehood criteria for many years uninterruptedly.
 
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