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You say one thing but show something else. You show examples of how China does it, then how the West does it, and says that the Chinese way is ineffective. So you want them to be like the West.
There are universal principles that work - being first, framing, word choice, repetition, simplification, working on emotion, social proof, etc. I want them to use effective universal principles. It has no nationality. The West uses the universal principles to win.

Is using a double blind research experiment setup becoming Western? You're conflating things.
But it's only ineffective to people who are too stupid to understand Chinese culture and sophistication. It's effective on loudmouths, like you.
The usa successfully shifted the blame for their biological weapons attack onto the victim, China. They got a lot of Middle Easterners to believe China committed genocide on Uyghurs. People still believe tank man got run over by a tank. They duped Chinese people into thinking the West is a utopia. The vast majority of people are not high iq. Good luck with avoiding people getting duped.

It's not skill. They're stupid and they communicate best with stupid people. I have already demonstrated this. This is why it is particularly attractive to you.
These are universal principles that work. Knowing what they are and when to use them is a skill. For example see
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- things that are repeated often are more likely to be believed whether they are true or false.

We win the hard power battles and the cultural victories follow. We don't chase cultural victories in and of themselves because that requires us to dumb ourselves down to communicate with stupid people and even then, you wouldn't get past the hard power control of Western countries over thier own territories.
This is not for you to decide. China already wants to "tell China's story better". And the best way to do that is to use effective communication tactics that are universal. Tiktok is global and can reach users (possibly excluding usa in the future). Tiktok refugees at XHS show that Western hard power control is not invincible.

They didn't mean to lie; they thought it was the best. They thought they were the top. They overpromised. It's very easy to be boastful and end up a liar when things don't go according to plan. This is why the Chinese speak softly and leave room for error.
The example is irrelevant to soft power / psychological warfare. You're talking about their internal speaking style within an organization. How is "- under promise, over deliver" going to help counter a Western psyop like the Xinjiang atrocity propaganda?

I think learning their culture and replacing ours with thiers is insecurity.
Again, there are universal principles that work. No one is is saying China should lie, exaggerate, be a mouth cannon, spread hate, etc like the imperial West. For example, is it going to ruin our culture to use more repetition so an idea sticks? If so, how?

China has already westernized a lot. The politburo wears western suits and ties. Disney has theme parks brainwashing Chinese kids all day long inside China. We have night clubs, bars, raves, extreme feminism, plastic surgery to look more Western, a lot of Christian converts, celebrate Christmas, obesity, etc. Using universal communication principles should be the least of your worries.

Art and science cannot be treated the same. Absorbing others' culture causes their influence and domination over you; absorbing their technology allows you to undermine and eventually dominate them with hard power.
That doesn't apply to using universal communication principles.

This is not going to change Chinese culture. It's not going to Westernize anyone. It's like you're freaking out over Indian mental-math shortcuts. Using the shortcuts changes nothing about Chinese culture. It just makes math easier to do.

Using universal communication principles doesn't change Chinese culture. It just makes influence easier to achieve.
Do you understand?
 
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Of course. "PRC is the only country with the capability and will to challenge the United States across all domains" is something that is repeated over and over again for a reason.
It should be like this: "By this point, China had become the only power defeating us across nearly all domains for the first time so far in our history. To have any chance of competing next and preventing the gap from widening even further, we had to shut down all global soft intelligence interference operations, including USAID and NED, while also attempting to sacrifice Ukraine and abandon Europe to Russia."
 

tygyg1111

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There are universal principles that work - being first, framing, word choice, repetition, simplification, working on emotion, social proof, etc. I want them to use effective universal principles. It has no nationality. The West uses the universal principles to win.

Is using a double blind research experiment setup becoming Western? You're conflating things.

The usa successfully shifted the blame for their biological weapons attack onto the victim, China. They got a lot of Middle Easterners to believe China committed genocide on Uyghurs. People still believe tank man got run over by a tank. They duped Chinese people into thinking the West is a utopia. The vast majority of people are not high iq. Good luck with avoiding people getting duped.


These are universal principles that work. Knowing what they are and when to use them is a skill. For example see
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- things that are repeated often are more likely to be believed whether they are true or false.


This is not for you to decide. China already wants to "tell China's story better". And the best way to do that is to use effective communication tactics that are universal. Tiktok is global and can reach users (possibly excluding usa in the future). Tiktok refugees at XHS show that Western hard power control is not invincible.


The example is irrelevant to soft power / psychological warfare. You're talking about their internal speaking style within an organization. How is "- under promise, over deliver" going to help counter a Western psyop like the Xinjiang atrocity propaganda?


Again, there are universal principles that work. No one is is saying China should lie, exaggerate, be a mouth cannon, spread hate, etc like the imperial West. For example, is it going to ruin our culture to use more repetition so an idea sticks? If so, how?

China has already westernized a lot. The politburo wears western suits and ties. Disney has theme parks brainwashing Chinese kids all day long inside China. We have night clubs, bars, raves, extreme feminism, plastic surgery to look more Western, a lot of Christian converts, celebrate Christmas, obesity, etc. Using universal communication principles should be the least of your worries.


That doesn't apply to using universal communication principles.

This is not going to change Chinese culture. It's not going to Westernize anyone. It's like you're freaking out over Indian mental-math shortcuts. Using the shortcuts changes nothing about Chinese culture. It just makes math easier to do.

Using universal communication principles doesn't change Chinese culture. It just makes influence easier to achieve.
Do you understand?
Can you give us an example of how you would tell China's story better, on a topic and format of your choosing?
 

Chevalier

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This is basically the equivalent of the indian backoffice staff meeting the anglo american corporate heads.
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China Tries to Play the Role of Peacemaker in Ukraine​

U.S. and Europe would view Beijing’s proposal skeptically given its close ties to Moscow​




I think the recent hints are too clear.
they actually hate the fact that they have to defer to the non white great yellow peril to play peacemaker because their white supremacist states are too barbaric and uncivilised to look after themselves. I can tell it makes 360 Baerbock and von der lying rage.
 
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