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siegecrossbow

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Day 3 is well under way. There is excitement of new ways of doing things with DeepSeek R1. There is anxiety of national security. There is MSFT investigating if distilling OpenAI is actually stealing. From my lens so far today, things are settling down a little bit, from financials to software vendors to freelancing users. So here are some additional observations:

(1) DeepSeek R1 is truly first of its kind in (1) it is MIT licensed; (2) it has a white paper in technical insights; (3) it is relatively straightforward integrating various aspects of its open source release with proprietary tools or solutions.

For disclosure, I subscribed Perplexity Pro for $20 month, since its CEO started pitching how wonderful DeepSeek R1 works for Perplexity AI services. Now I am not going to judge how it actually works versus DeepSeek website or DeepSeek R1 distilling Llama. They all good as long as it is 百花齐放。

(2) OpenAI interest group is freaking out. Based on my current understanding, DeepSeek V3/R1 and Alibaba Qwen2.5-Max and Kimi.ai etc. are material impacting the OpenAI business model. I have not heard anything w.r.t. 500B Stargate in the last few days. Almost everything was around DeepSeek.

(3) Independent or third-party vendors are really excited. Prior to DeepSeek open source releases, they were all scared of living under the shadow of hyperscalers. The memory of the first internet bubble and the second cloud bubble lingers: if you don't have bubbly XYZ then your business is going to be obsolete. Now with DeepSeek and other competing offerings, we are fundamentally entering into the next phase of solution integration and enduser deliverables in real world use cases.

We are truly living in an interesting time ...... Happy Chinese New Year to everyone!

It’s the Democratization of AI technology. Before this the big companies hoarded all the knowhows but now small businesses have a chance to compete too.

So in a sense DeepSeek is the Prometheus bringing fire to man kind. It doesn’t matter if it gets banned or destroyed or whatever. The genie is out of the bottle.
 

RedBaron

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A new opinion poll shows 85% of Greenlanders do not want their island to become a part of the United States, after Donald Trump called for the US to take control of the semi-autonomous Danish territory.

Since his re-election, Trump has reiterated his interest in acquiring the Arctic island, which is controlled by Denmark but has a large degree of autonomy.

Speaking onboard Air Force One on Saturday, Trump said: “I think we’re going to have it,” and claimed that the Arctic island’s 57,000 residents “want to be with us”.

But a new survey by pollster Verian, commissioned by the Danish paper Berlingske, showed only 6% of Greenlanders are in favour of becoming part of the US, with 9% undecided.

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Chevalier

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So this cute girl outsmarted Americas best and brightest?
Look at the angry reactions from Americans and their slaves (Indians). This is the reason Hollywood goes out of its way to denigrate Asian men; they need asians to worship white men so that women like “luoli” would betray China for white approval. I can tell just by how modestly she dresses that her values system is Chinese rather than a la malinche traitor like Melissa chan.
Style is more suited for Chinese beauty standards rather than western standards for western eyes.
 

siegecrossbow

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The main genie out of the bottle with DeepSeek is getting a non-reasoning model to reason using reinforcement learning.
There is no way OpenAi, CIA, or USA is putting that genie back into the bottle.

I still think that generative AI is overrated as hell. Even if it is 100 percent working as the AI hypers intended all it could do is replace white collared jobs. It is not productive in the sense that it could enhance manufacturing or even menial labor.

If anything it could weaken a service based economy if working as designed.
 

proelite

Junior Member
I still think that generative AI is overrated as hell. Even if it is 100 percent working as the AI hypers intended all it could do is replace white collared jobs. It is not productive in the sense that it could enhance manufacturing or even menial labor.

If anything it could weaken a service based economy if working as designed.

Generative AI powered sexrobots.
 

SanWenYu

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I still think that generative AI is overrated as hell. Even if it is 100 percent working as the AI hypers intended all it could do is replace white collared jobs. It is not productive in the sense that it could enhance manufacturing or even menial labor.

If anything it could weaken a service based economy if working as designed.
But generative AI can be trained to give better instructions for robots and computerized machines, no? Basically, the more your manufacturing is automated, the easier you can improve the productivity even further with the help of AI.

Even for jobs that have not been automated, I think generative AI can still learn from how human workers operate. AI can then help in designing and implementing the automation.
 

coolgod

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I still think that generative AI is overrated as hell. Even if it is 100 percent working as the AI hypers intended all it could do is replace white collared jobs. It is not productive in the sense that it could enhance manufacturing or even menial labor.

If anything it could weaken a service based economy if working as designed.
Can't generative AI replace OnlyFans? Chinese creativity + Chinese sexbot + Chinese AI will liberate E-Thots across the world.
 
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