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iewgnem

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FairAndUnbiased

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Typical American thinking where the more money they spend on something, it has to be better. How else do they trick people into investing aka rob them of their money.
In the 1960s the US used cost-plus pricing, where they sold things for the marginal cost to make them + a small profit margin.

In the 1980s they moved to value pricing where the price can be arbitrarily high as long as customers can tolerate the cost.

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This is the result.
 

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Yes stay away from DeepSeek and it’s like it never happened. Don’t acknowledge that it beat Open AI and every other US model and it means it never did. China is still years behind the US so you no longer have to worry about it.

It’s funny regarding Elon Musk outing Stargate as not having the money… That’s because Stargate was supposed to inspire investors to sink their money into it. They claim to have $100 billion but still leaves them needing $400 billion more. And now enter DeepSeek…

I didn't bother reading this article. I already know it is likely the article (and half the comments) will mention at least one of these 3 things:
A) "The Chinese copied/stole IP"
B) Something about Tiananmen Square/Uyghur genocide/Xinnie the P00h
C) Something-something authoritarianism...

Someone posted a XHS video last week where the girl said something like "why are we (Americans) always so obsessed with what Chinese people think about Tiananmen Square? They don't care, they also don't talk about Kent State massacre on and on"

Honestly, these politicians keep talking about "CHYNA CHYNA CHYNA" and their actual actions are ZERO. Meanwhile China doesn't have this unhealthy obsession and people are riding HSR all over the country, EVs around the city and improving air quality.

If the Chinese government hates Uyghurs so much, why does the Urumqi metro have platform barriers, but NYC, the biggest/richest city in the USA have nothing to prevent all the suicides and murders/attempts? The politicians say "it is just too expensive!", too expensive to stop something that happens once every other week (not even counting suicides)? Too expensive for the city with the most billionaires in the whole world?
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As an aside, people bandy about this "2 million number" around like a given. It's funny because people don't even think of the logistics of this. 2 million is a pretty large city in most countries. Not easy to hide even if you put them in closet size cells. If you spread these "camps" all over the place, you would need so many guards, trucks, etc. It would be so expensive. The slave labour thing is also so stupid. How would you allocate slaves? How could non-slave holding companies compete with slaveholders? Are slaves segregated from regular employees? Yet people say Chinese lack critical thinking because of the CCP...
 

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I didn't bother reading this article. I already know it is likely the article (and half the comments) will mention at least one of these 3 things:
A) "The Chinese copied/stole IP"
B) Something about Tiananmen Square/Uyghur genocide/Xinnie the P00h
C) Something-something authoritarianism...

Someone posted a XHS video last week where the girl said something like "why are we (Americans) always so obsessed with what Chinese people think about Tiananmen Square? They don't care, they also don't talk about Kent State massacre on and on"

Honestly, these politicians keep talking about "CHYNA CHYNA CHYNA" and their actual actions are ZERO. Meanwhile China doesn't have this unhealthy obsession and people are riding HSR all over the country, EVs around the city and improving air quality.

If the Chinese government hates Uyghurs so much, why does the Urumqi metro have platform barriers, but NYC, the biggest/richest city in the USA have nothing to prevent all the suicides and murders/attempts? The politicians say "it is just too expensive!", too expensive to stop something that happens once every other week (not even counting suicides)? Too expensive for the city with the most billionaires in the whole world?
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As an aside, people bandy about this "2 million number" around like a given. It's funny because people don't even think of the logistics of this. 2 million is a pretty large city in most countries. Not easy to hide even if you put them in closet size cells. If you spread these "camps" all over the place, you would need so many guards, trucks, etc. It would be so expensive. The slave labour thing is also so stupid. How would you allocate slaves? How could non-slave holding companies compete with slaveholders? Are slaves segregated from regular employees? Yet people say Chinese lack critical thinking because of the CCP...

It’s because unless you are in the top 0.01 percent you are completely replaceable by immigrants. Plebs are only useful when they consume overpriced goods and services and go out to vote.
 

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I saw the whole interview and personally i don't think Zarif was so bad in it. But he is a true pro western liberal but i don't think he is a traitor. You can see he is annoyed being ignored by the west especially for being such a good boy. He kind of reminds me of pre 2022 Putin always willing to give the West another chance while his back is full with western daggers.
Putin before and after 2022 is not much change. he is always in search of that Soft Power and this reflected in his Ukraine approach. just look at Kursk. its like testing if Islamic army enters a Christian area in war time situation. how it will behave in governing.
when you see that big numbers. it tell you these people have amassed alot of wealth and there is tech that want to get from there and these people are well advised years ahead. see the flag on university.
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UAE hoping to expand $1 trillion partnership with U.S. through AI, Investment​


 
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