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supercat
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Yes, I don't think SoftBank can contribute even $100 billion. When you cook up a scam, the bigger it is, the more investors it will swindle. However, the eventual outcome of such a fraud will be devastating for the West: they will lose the AI war against China.
Try mentioning Gaza genocide on Western social media.
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Sinaloa Cheese LLC at it again
I hear Taiwan might open up the military to foreigners, he should support this and get the law passed so he can join to fight the PLA
Truthfully, I don't think AI is particularly 'hard' to do. The field is so new and the body of work is non-existent that anybody can just go in and pick it up. The lag at the start of the 'race' was more because few in compsci specialized in LLM so you needed to wait for more people to graduate or reskill. China is beating USA in LLM without trying, essentially. It is not devoting any significant state resources to LLM research.
Silicon Valley is trying a lot harder but they have literally no talent. I'm talking about maybe 20 people in ClosedAI actually know what they're doing. Everyone else are compsci code monkeys and just support staff or selling the hype. Sora team was two PhDs and 50 monkeys. Look at how few people on Twitter from OpenAI can understand DeepSeek, even when it's laid in front of them.
Right now it really is strongest Western brain trust vs weakest Chinese hobbyists.
Silicon Valley is trying a lot harder but they have literally no talent. I'm talking about maybe 20 people in ClosedAI actually know what they're doing. Everyone else are compsci code monkeys and just support staff or selling the hype. Sora team was two PhDs and 50 monkeys. Look at how few people on Twitter from OpenAI can understand DeepSeek, even when it's laid in front of them.
Right now it really is strongest Western brain trust vs weakest Chinese hobbyists.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
I'm not an expert on AI so correct me if I'm wrong but it's weird of the naysayers are somehow saying because DeepSeek doesn't answer China sensitive questions, it's a failure. That's intentional just like I've read that US models don't answers questions that are sensitive to the West. The problem is if it wasn't intentional and didn't answer correctly. It's say more how US AI is going to lie and hide the truth to everyone.
I wonder if OpenAI is offline because of DeepSeek. Why would you want to pay $200 a month for something you can get for free? Yes just like China coming out with 6th Gen fighters, the usual suspects are saying the US has more advanced ones that they aren't revealing just yet, they're saying the same over AI models. Like China doesn't have their own models they're working on in secret? I've been reading how DeepSeek came out with this two months after OpenAI's debut even though theirs is closed. People are wondering why China made this open-source. China is just showing off how they can make theirs better than they could.
Interesting the timing. Some AI conference is happening and this latest comes out around the same time. Trump announces Stargate too that they're investing $500 billion when DeepSeek costs are in the millions to OpenAI's billions. You know people are thinking about that when DeepSeek comes out throwing a sabot into their gears. It goes to the accusation US tech giants are just thinking about how much money that they can get in investments on selling a dream of the future and not what's realistic.
I wonder if OpenAI is offline because of DeepSeek. Why would you want to pay $200 a month for something you can get for free? Yes just like China coming out with 6th Gen fighters, the usual suspects are saying the US has more advanced ones that they aren't revealing just yet, they're saying the same over AI models. Like China doesn't have their own models they're working on in secret? I've been reading how DeepSeek came out with this two months after OpenAI's debut even though theirs is closed. People are wondering why China made this open-source. China is just showing off how they can make theirs better than they could.
Interesting the timing. Some AI conference is happening and this latest comes out around the same time. Trump announces Stargate too that they're investing $500 billion when DeepSeek costs are in the millions to OpenAI's billions. You know people are thinking about that when DeepSeek comes out throwing a sabot into their gears. It goes to the accusation US tech giants are just thinking about how much money that they can get in investments on selling a dream of the future and not what's realistic.
