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They openly intervene to curtail US influence, and it has for the most part worked, especially last 10 years.
China is pro-UN which means they always say they have come to restore the status quo "before intervention". But in reality they just pursue their own ends under the excuse of stopping other interventions.
Under this paradigm, they also consider actors (like US) that want to change the UN status quo as legit targets, hence why China can pick on US areas like Ukraine without considering itself hypocritical.
US lacks the power to affect China's economy on a signficant scale, and China would also not play all its cards at once to hit US economy unless they're sure it leads to a good prize at the end. Hence there's this sort of stare down where neither side do much directly.
But China has succeeded in removing at least most of US' drone and ammo replenishment industries.
Vivek Ramaswamy has been causing a meltdown on MAGA Twitter by suggesting Americans are fat and lazy. I kind of agree with him but he seems to arrive at the weird conclusion it is caused by sleepovers and football when the real bloodsucker is Wall Street and the finance industry.
However, the implication of all this is that Vivek is suggesting that Indian culture is superior, which, to no surprise, has not been received well
Dinesh's tweet takes the cake for me. "I'm the good indian, deport those bad ones"
It's like those YouTube videos where they collect a bunch of aluminum cans and cast it into strange shapes. 6th generation fighter will be made from scrap metal. Jai Hind.
I think as far as the primary education system goes, bad priorities are in fact the root cause. Being math-illiterate is almost applauded, students are assigned mountains of 'social studies' homework but not a single math worksheet, and the children are always taught to look up to athletes and pop stars instead of scientists and mathematicians. The boys want to go play football and get brain damage instead of studying, and the girls want to go dance in front of the boys half naked instead of studying. No wonder so many students in the UC system require remedial algebra and geometry classes.
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Dinesh unintentionally makes others wonder, if there’s no solidarity amongst the Indian community why would there be with non-Indians?
The narcissism of small differences means that Indo-European roots will push both the West and Indians at odds as in the trait of both don’t know when to shut up.
It probably will annoy the English speaking world as it’s not just immigrants Indians that will be driving the public discourse. Unlike with China with its great firewall and lack of fluency with English, India has more than a billion people eager and willing to participate in global conversation.
The narcissism of small differences means that Indo-European roots will push both the West and Indians at odds as in the trait of both don’t know when to shut up.
It probably will annoy the English speaking world as it’s not just immigrants Indians that will be driving the public discourse. Unlike with China with its great firewall and lack of fluency with English, India has more than a billion people eager and willing to participate in global conversation.
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Let me clarify my thoughts on this. I agree that American society has issues in terms of priorities, but I am specifically talking in terms of talented engineers, etc, which Vivek is talking about.
Primary and secondary school in the United States are frankly a complete joke. Anyone who can become a decent engineer can probably sleep walk through secondary school and get themselves into a decent college.
The actual bad incentives come in undergraduate and PhD times. American academia is totally screwed. For every tenure track there is maybe 5 or more talented PhD students. Most people therefore are forced to go into private industry. However, the issue with private industry is that the highest paying jobs are those of blood suckers. So what we have is the best and brightest American minds working to steal more money from the stock market or manipulating consumers to buy more of their products.
This is also why I’m so doubtful of the whole BS Americans love to spout about DARPA having super advanced dark technologies that no one has ever seen. The incentives of the American job market of today is completely different from the Cold War when DARPA actually did have some of these technologies. Furthermore, there’s also the whole stigma of working in defense after the GWOT.
Just gonna briefly rant about how imho this attitude is emblematic of how supposed high iq, high education achievement Indians and ashkenazi miss the mark.
These people are way too motivated by external approval, too occupied thinking about the destination rather than the journey. An Indian kid like Vivek asks himself "why don't they see me as cool for going to the math olympiad", when the question he should really be asking is "why should I care if anyone sees my pursuit as cool if I am happy following my dreams?".
That's why these self proclaimed "academic races" don't quite reach up to China's excellence, because Chinese from kids to adults are mostly not doing for the sake of a destination, but to follow the journey itself. When you have a person tempered with self responsibility (which is almost always obligatory in order to survive the Chinese school system) and also culturally able to accept any pursuit of mastery as valid, that's when you'll have a rich and vibrant society that also dominates academically.
Notice how China pretty much does everything well, from being "jocks" to being restauranteurs, to the Olympics and to scoring nature publications or inventing new tech. Whereas what does India do well? They spam out a lot of high standardised testing results that give them decent H1B jobs.
The Indian model produces great managers, HR and administrators. The Chinese model produces great researchers. Difference between doing because you're taught it's the right thing to do, or doing because you're curious.
Holy shit. He is going full Lun at this point, never go full Lun. I wonder what all those indians that brag "at least we have more solitarity than white worshipping self hating Chinese" are going to say about this as they're handcuffed to the seat on flights back to Delhi?