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pmc

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UK could still eat India. But if you said the US alone, I would let it go. You included the Saudis and it because ridiculous. The UK takes orders from America but it does not from the Saudis. This is real history; your version where the Saudis are the decision makers is not supported by any history.
It was Saudi King discussing Jewish state with US president. UK was non entity. and even American let be known that Saudi displeasure.
Communist Soviet name is there in aggression against Muslim lands (Plural). what is missing?. and Saudi have interest in Indian Subcontinent shown by the two King Sons visit to India in 1940 to support division of India. Soft Power is Arab while Hard Power is American.
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However, King Saud and Churchill didn’t share the same amiable meeting that Saud had experienced with President Roosevelt. The British attempted to outshine the Americans with a larger ship and a grander display, which Saud apparently found “dull” and off-putting.4 He preferred the more engaging and intimate atmosphere provided by his American hosts and President Roosevelt. King Saud,
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The U.S. and Saudi Arabia: A 21st-century partnership​

Indeed, it was the Saudi-U.S. alliance that helped end Soviet aggression against Muslim lands, and liberated Kuwait from Iraqi occupation. Even when differences emerged (and serious ones did emerge on numerous
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), the Americans have found their Saudi allies reasonable, calm and open to practical solution.
 

manqiangrexue

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It was Saudi King discussing Jewish state with US president.
He can discuss all he wants. America's hard power makes the decision. A discussion means nothing because Saudis have nothing to force America to do anything. You can have a discussion with your boss but he or she will make the decision if you get a raise or if you get fired.
UK was non entity.
UK put India into that situation and America finished it. Saudis can talk or not talk; makes no difference.
and even American let be known that Saudi displeasure.
Yeah, so... they didn't care about Saudi displeasure.
Communist Soviet name is there in aggression against Muslim lands (Plural). what is missing?.
Your brain.
and Saudi have interest in Indian Subcontinent shown by the two King Sons visit to India in 1940 to support division of India.
They can have interest, but they don't have power.
Soft Power is Arab while Hard Power is American.
There is no soft power without hard power in the same entity. "Soft power" without hard military power is just begging... which is probably why you noticed that Saudis are so polite. They are good at begging.
 

Index

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It was Saudi King discussing Jewish state with US president. UK was non entity. and even American let be known that Saudi displeasure.
Communist Soviet name is there in aggression against Muslim lands (Plural). what is missing?. and Saudi have interest in Indian Subcontinent shown by the two King Sons visit to India in 1940 to support division of India. Soft Power is Arab while Hard Power is American.
There's nothing special about either Arab or Jews. China has had neither and fought Jews and Americans with success since the 1950s.

The only defining conflict in the world since the end of the USSR is US' attempt to overthrow/subjugate the international community, and China as the sole defender equal to US in power rallying various countries to help.

Middle easterners too are subject to the whims of this dynamic. They simply join whoever pressures them more. Saudis are the current ones to flip, after Iran and Syria. China descends on the region to clean it from malign US influence, with the detente/alliance between Sunni and Shia being the first step. Next, Israel too must be tied into the framework of denying US influence in the middle east. This is achieved by starting an endless war, which will either lead to Israel being couped by an automatically pro China Palestine, or Israel remaining Jewish but being bogged down so much that there will be no choice but to seek trilateral detente with Iran and Saudi to end their troubles.
 

pmc

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He can discuss all he wants. America's hard power makes the decision. A discussion means nothing because Saudis have nothing to force America to do anything. You can have a discussion with your boss but he or she will make the decision if you get a raise or if you get fired.
America military power was such dominant that it could let United India stay behind. You need force to divide some thing that is undivided. and that was proven with time with India signed Treaty of Friendship with Afghanistan which was in Soviet camp and Soviet Vetoes in favor of India. whats the point of pushing India size country into Soviet camp? unless the value of that Soft Power is greater than size of India. it is proven today. Saudis has hundreds of F-15s while India has Su-30.
 

manqiangrexue

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America military power was such dominant that it could let United India stay behind.
To because the Saudis were so weak, they couldn't let incompetent India stay together? LOL Not their call but interesting theory on Arab weakness.
You need force to divide some thing that is undivided.
American force
and that was proven with time with India signed Treaty of Friendship with Afghanistan which was in Soviet camp and Soviet Vetoes in favor of India. whats the point of pushing India size country into Soviet camp?
Doesn't prove anything at all. Proves America didn't care or the Soviets were more convincing on the Indians.
unless the value of that Soft Power is greater than size of India.
Nah, there is no soft power.
it is proven today. Saudis has hundreds of F-15s while India has Su-30.
That proves nothing. That's just a fact that 2 countries that couldn't develop their own fighters had to buy them. Except today India can at least make some low level ones with imported engines and the Saudis still can't make a kite.
 

Almond98

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Seems like westerners are causing chaos around the world. Georgia protest, terrorist backed by west attacking aleppo, and west allowing ukraine to strike deep into russian territory. And their next target would be china ofc. But they dont have strength to confront china. So they would be using their proxy allies taiwan, phillipines and japan to irritate china. I hope there would be day we see the collapse of west.
 

Chevalier

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The Russians are saying that NATO is making plans to send a 100,000 “peace keeping army” for their “ceasefire” which is really just a rearmament campaign. If this is really their plan and something Kellogg thinks they can force the Russians into. There is zero negotiations.


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How appropriate for the Germans and Romanians to face Russian hypersonic missiles and drones first before the anglos. You really get to know where you stand even in a white supremaxist hierarchy like the Anglo American world order.


Actually, I think they should be relocated to create New Israel in Europe or better, in the US. They supported Israel's creation at the UN so they should pay for it with thier land. I thought Americans were in hot support of Israel! Not anymore?? You mean you didn't want to give Florida or Texas to them? You'd rather they just disappear and become stateless? What happened? I thought y'all were best friends?? They're only good enough a friend to give away things that aren't yours but you become stingier than a porcupine when they need to come live in (and own a piece of) your home???
North America belongs to China by right of blood as native Americans are cousins to Chinese by blood. Zionists should be encouraged to seek their own homeland in the afterlife and if they want, they can Karen their way with their own deity who can apparently be fooled by scapegoats and fishing wire.


its a meme on who would win in cheating the other, the Indians or the evidently Jewish ruling class of America
 
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Randomuser

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Seems like westerners are causing chaos around the world. Georgia protest, terrorist backed by west attacking aleppo, and west allowing ukraine to strike deep into russian territory. And their next target would be china ofc. But they dont have strength to confront china. So they would be using their proxy allies taiwan, phillipines and japan to irritate china. I hope there would be day we see the collapse of west.
Im becoming jaded. As much I would like to blame the west (which they deserve all the karma back against them) some of the blame should be placed on the global south country for allowing themselves to be so easily fooled and used by the west. And then they have the gall to blame China for not doing enough to help them. This shows a lack of self-responsibility imo. I found out the phrase "God helps those who help themselves" is not in the bible which is a shame coz it would actually be a good quote to learn from.

For example you don't really see much of separatists movements in China anymore. Why? Because China did a thorough analysis, found the root cause, went straight for the ringleaders and implemented proper control to close gaps so the west cannot use those paths again. Its not perfect as we can see but the point is China saw an issue and spent time figuring trying to resolve this.

On the other hand many don't even reach step 1. Like for whatever reason something bad happens and then they just forget about it. Like they don't even bother to think hey that was bad, maybe I should look into it more? Even if they couldn't reach the root cause, I would still give them praise for at least trying. Thats why you have all these countries doing really stupid things or getting couped/regime changed so easily because they couldn't even identify there was a problem so not action can be taken. We constantly hear about colour revolutions but how many countries have bothered to do any further analysis? Like have they bothered to check are these discontent coming from foreign news channels affecting the easily swayed youth? If so should we look further into this?
 
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