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jiajia99

Junior Member
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No: just that only 1/6th of the country lives in New York and California. Even assuming that for the median upper-middle income household, those states are “high cost of living” (let’s pretend they didn’t buy their house decades ago and are paying back a fixed rate mortgage)

No. It’s that the combined populations are lower.

Nope. The U.S. has the world’s best enforcement of anti-money laundering/know your customer laws. The “actual functioning economy” is the tons of software publishers and manufacturers that employ EB-2 greencard holders and the various industrial sites with EB-5 greencard holders.

If Chinese businesspeople, the people that gained the most out of China’s boom, aren’t confident of its sustainability, then who reasonably can be?

Firms chased comparative advantage. So this isn’t different.

They are trying to flight their assets out of China.

Protectionism doesn’t ban EU exporters from exporting. China’s lack of firms that export in complementary product categories is evidence of China’s industrial impotence.

The fact that the “evidence” China is on the technological frontier means talking to death the same exceptions over and over again. - 5G, HSR, EVs, and green energy - ends up proving the case. If China was actually on the frontier, the chat would be about cases where China is not on the frontier. The exception is the case where China is on the frontier.
Best enforcement of anti money laundering….. are you mad, where did you get that one from. I know you simp for the USA like a drunken sailor full of red wine, but to the point where you lose all your common sense…. Are you sure you don’t need a trip to a therapist. I mean Gordon Chang would be proud of you
 

TK3600

Major
Registered Member
China is behind only in semiconductors, aircraft, and pharmaceuticals. They already conquered the machine tools, high speed rail, shipbuilding, automobile, nuclear power, sectors. Even in the sectors China is still behind I would say they will be competitive in a decade, and reach parity or even superiority in two decades.
Semiconductor: 1 generation behind market leader in fab quality, notably lacking EUV access. However, EUV is a multi-national effort, not property of single country. China is most advanced when you compare to any single country.

Aircraft: shared #1 spot with US in military, 1 tier behind in civilian. Notably lacking wide body aircraft production, and not yet using domestic engine.

Pharmaceutical: 1 gen behind on cutting edge equipment, cutting edge therapy. Ahead in basic chemical precursor and antibiotics. Tough to say on this one.

I would say China is roughly 5 years behind in these areas. I expect China to catch up in all but pharmaceutical. Because that thing requires long clinical trial. The new product on par with US will not be available even after production in 2029.
 

Heresy

New Member
Registered Member
If you ever wonder how someone can spend literally the entire day arguing with people online about every topic there is out there, just remember the US is literally spending $300 million on bots and propagandists online. This is a paid profession for some of them.

Just block him and move on like I did.

I don't think he's actually a bot or paid. I would expect an actual state-sponsored attempt to subvert this forum to be far more...competent. Then again, he is Indian, so there is that.

Blocking him may remove him from your view, but not everyone else's. If no one engages him and everyone blocks him, all that does is to cede the space to this chucklefuck. We won't see his garbage but some poor sod who hasn't blocked him will. And he will lock like the dominant contributor to this thread. He will slowly pollute this thread and metastasize like a cancer, before spreading to a new thread. The pattern is already there.

Can we have a separate thread for "back and forth with cghough34 bot"?

Or, and I know this is shocking, the mods can do their goddamn jobs and ban this guy. This is clearly another Sleepy Alt. There was a Sleepy Rule created JUST for this sort of instance, and yet for whatever reason, the mods won't use it on this guy's ass. He's clearly being protected on some level by the mods. I have no idea why though.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
Registered Member
Semiconductor: 1 generation behind market leader in fab quality, notably lacking EUV access. However, EUV is a multi-national effort, not property of single country. China is most advanced when you compare to any single country.

Aircraft: shared #1 spot with US in military, 1 tier behind in civilian. Notably lacking wide body aircraft production, and not yet using domestic engine.

Pharmaceutical: 1 gen behind on cutting edge equipment, cutting edge therapy. Ahead in basic chemical precursor and antibiotics. Tough to say on this one.

I would say China is roughly 5 years behind in these areas. I expect China to catch up in all but pharmaceutical. Because that thing requires long clinical trial. The new product on par with US will not be available even after production in 2029.
Semiconductor is ahead of EU overall. They only have EUV lithography but can't use it themselves. SMIC FinFET transistor densities are comparable with leading edge Intel processes.

Aerospace is ahead of EU in 3/4 categories: military, space and rocketry are ahead, civil is behind.

Pharmaceutical is behind but since Chinese life expectancy is only 2 years behind entire EU and ahead of many EU individual countries it doesn't seem to matter in the end.

And this is comparing with an entire continent of 700M people and all developed countries.
 

BoraTas

Captain
Registered Member
Yes. People need to dig really deep to find products that don’t have complementarities. And this is the EU, not even the U.S. (with substantially more technical complexity and product lines).
It is amusing how you make very far reaching conclusions from a non-contextual single number. Without any comparison points too... It is similar to how you argued with me about over reported job generation numbers of the last year but the data you posted had everything except the last year.
This behavior has a name. It is intellectual dishonesty.
 
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