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It takes a great deal of effort to prepare and deploy a force of 40,000 . you simply can not do it in one week. especialy when you look at new orleans. there are two roads that lead into the city which both were destroyed. for a period of time only helo borne units could get into the city. you then have to look a safty for the first responders. new orleans has heavy crime with many criminal games that are armed to the teeth. these gangs are preying on everybody.

also this force could not have been forward deployed BEFORE the incident due to that very force would be damaged by the winds and flood. I also think much of the blame should be given to the city of new orleans city government which is corupt and poorly run. I dont think you can blame the Federal government at all. The military is doing the best it can.

not good enough. the military should know the area is often strike at that area, so the should have troops stationed there.

migleader, I am sorry but you are incorrect. First responders cannot respond if they to become victims. You should take a emergency managment course to become better informed.

I once spoke to a PLA officer. He told me that each year during flood season, the division he was serving would form a special rapid response unit that is ready to be deployed to a possible disaster area in very short time. They may not have any helicopter like the U.S. army, but they do have plenty of motor boats that can travel easily in the flooding area. It is a common practice for most of the PLA ground forces arcoss the country.

It is still difficult for me to understand why it took so long to deploy troops in New Orlean. As I recall, a U.S. Army Infantry Division can deploy about 50 helicopters (UH-60 and UH-1, not including gunships such as AH-64 and AH-1) within its own order of battle. An airborne division (such as 101st) can deploy over 100. Also don't they have any boats?

Dongfeng, The 101st is a elite combat unit which has many of its assets like Helos deployed on combat operations around the world. the 82nd is in the same boat as it to is deployed fighting the war on terror. also because of certain legal issues federal combat units cannot be used the same way the "nasty girls" (thats the national guard) can be used inside of the country. also if say some gang or group of people attacked the 82nd or 101st you would have many civs killed. please remember many army combat units have been engaged with enemy for the past 4 years and are BIG TIME SHOOTERS FIRST. Many inside of the army (me too) believe that combat units are made to "kill people" plain and simple. They are degraded by conducting such operations as the one the national guard is playing in LA. Israel is seeing the degrading of many of their combat units because of security dutie inside of gaza and the west bank dealing with civs throwing stones and such.......cheers ute.

ALSO Dongfeng, I should say "yes you are correct". the PLA most likley does this kind of thing alot more than the U.S national guard does. The PLA is better at this flooding stuff than we are.......BUT we are learning from our mistakes and will get better at it...I hope......cheers ute.

I have observed some things with the LA national guard. they to seem to be somewhat unprofessional in apperence. I have observed many soldiers without any kind of head cover IE Kevlar, cap or booney while just manning check points and such. I have see very faded almost unserviceable woodland camo uniforms while at the same time having desert boots. I understand that the LA NGs are not regular army however they should have the apperance and military bearing that is required from reg army units......just my thoughts.

yes, I forgot about the complex legal issues in using the federal army within the U.S. homeland. Never lived in a real federal country

It would be useful to provide the national guards with more training and equipment for "low-intensity" operations such as disaster relief, and in some cases, law enforcement. In this way, the "real" military units can concentrate on "high-intensity" combat operations.

I think probably the trouble with the national guards is that they need some time to be mobilised, even though some of its units are ready for deployment.

I agree that the governments of China and USA do have different views on their armed forces. To the U.S. government, the armed force is simply a machine to kill, while to the Chinese government, the armed force is also a pool of manpower for a variety of things--no wonder they have to keep 2.2 million men there

In China, does regular PLA, reservists, or special units conduct the flood control and aid operations?

FriedRiceNSpice said:

In China, does regular PLA, reservists, or special units conduct the flood control and aid operations?

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They all do