Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)

bd popeye

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Re: Construction Progress on USS Independence, LCS 2

Does anyone here think the LCS will essentially replace the Perry class frigates in the USN? And some of the higher up functions of the Perrys will be covered by destroyers?

No I do not. Not now. The Perry class FFG's have a mission for now..ASW, AAW drug inderdiction & VBSS. In the future we shall have to wait and see. I would not be surprised to see all these missions turned over to the LCS.
 

joshuatree

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Re: Construction Progress on USS Independence, LCS 2

No I do not. Not now. The Perry class FFG's have a mission for now..ASW, AAW drug inderdiction & VBSS. In the future we shall have to wait and see. I would not be surprised to see all these missions turned over to the LCS.


Oh no doubt about now, obviously meant going on in the future. I am not aware of any next-gen frigate in the works for the USN and the Perrys aren't young either so it was a natural conclusion for me that eventually the LCS, with the number planned on acquiring, would take over most of the Perry's functions.
 

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Re: Construction Progress on USS Independence, LCS 2

I have a "dumb" question... Lockheed Martin was contracted to produce LCS-1 and LCS-3, while General Dynamics was contracted to build LCS-2 and LCS-4.

Is there a difference in design betwenn LCS-1 and LCS-3, or are they identical?

The USN issued a "stop work" order on LCS-3 in Jan 2007. Was any construction work done on the LCS-3 before the stop work was issued?

Raytheon was initially contracted to submit a LCS design. Does anyone have any drawings or info on Raytheon's conceptual design, and its difference to Lockheed or GD's version?
 

Scratch

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Re: Construction Progress on USS Independence, LCS 2

Raytheon was initially contracted to submit a LCS design. Does anyone have any drawings or info on Raytheon's conceptual design, and its difference to Lockheed or GD's version?

Well, on that part I refer you to
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it's interesting and gives a little overveiw.
 

Jeff Head

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Re: Construction Progress on USS Independence, LCS 2

No I do not. Not now. The Perry class FFG's have a mission for now..ASW, AAW drug inderdiction & VBSS. In the future we shall have to wait and see. I would not be surprised to see all these missions turned over to the LCS.
They've removed ther single arm AAW launcher from almost all of the Perry's my friend. Their chief purpose now is interdiction and ASW. I believe the LCS will ultimately replace the Perrys, and that they will not just be used in the littorals, but also in Phibron and even CSG escort roles.

In the mean time, the Perrys will continue the interdiction and ASW role, particularly for Phibrons.

I have a "dumb" question... Lockheed Martin was contracted to produce LCS-1 and LCS-3, while General Dynamics was contracted to build LCS-2 and LCS-4.

Is there a difference in design betwenn LCS-1 and LCS-3, or are they identical?
They are very different. LCS 2 and 4 by GD are trimaran designs. Lockheeds design is a shallow draft, high speed, semi-planing monohull design...which has a more traditional looking hull. The first post on this thread shows the different designs.
 
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tphuang

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Re: Construction Progress on USS Independence, LCS 2

read some comments by gf0012-aust on WAB, it doesn't appear that cost is the only issue here. But I don't think we can get the whole picture of why it was cancelled until much later.
 

bd popeye

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Re: Construction Progress on USS Independence, LCS 2

read some comments by gf0012-aust on WAB, it doesn't appear that cost is the only issue here. But I don't think we can get the whole picture of why it was cancelled until much later.

gf0012-aust posted something on this subject?? Gee..I can't wait to read that!..(scarcasm)..Could you post a link? Thanks!
 

Scratch

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Re: Construction Progress on USS Independence, LCS 2

They are very different. LCS 2 and 4 by GD are trimaran designs. Lockheeds design is a shallow draft, high speed, semi-planing monohull design...which has a more traditional looking hull. The first post on this thread shows the different designs.

I think what he meant was if there's a difference bewteen LCS-1 and -3, the two LM designs.
If the LCS finally replaces the OHPs in the fleet, we might probably see even more than 55 vessels. But it will take some time IMO, since the Perrys will stay in service for some time. Is there already a timetable to decomission them?

Now with LCS-3 cancaled, will the USN still completely evaluate both designs or go with GD before a full assesment?
 

Scratch

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Re: US Navy launches and christens first Littoral Combat Ship (LCS)

Bad news for the USS Freedom, a fire on board. Reason still unknown and under investigation. Burned around one hour under deck. Two persons treated for smoke inhalation, but already released.

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A fire broke out on board the US Navy's (USN's) Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) USS Freedom on 25 April, burning for about an hour and causing damage to "multiple spaces" on the starboard side of the ship, according to prime contractor Lockheed Martin.
Its spokesperson Diana Massing told Jane's that so far the extent of the damage to the area is unknown and is still being assessed.
The fire was sparked in an area below deck undergoing scheduled construction, where workers were using welding equipment. The exact cause of the fire, however, is under investigation by Lockheed Martin, shipbuilders Marinette Marine and the USN.
Meanwhile, two shipyard workers were treated in a local hospital for smoke inhalation but were released within 24 hours, and there were no other injuries, said Massing.
 
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Schumacher

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Re: US Navy launches and christens first Littoral Combat Ship (LCS)

At least now we know the Russian is not the only one with fire safety issues at their shipyards.
 
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