Ladakh Flash Point

sukhoi_30MKI said:

The same amount of point Mongol Kublai khan gave to smaller Chinese kingdoms when they invaded you.

regarding freedom of speech, west has their own standards and India has its own. Chinese have none.

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India has freedom of speech?! Really???

I thought that's become thoroughly debunked as a greater lie than China having freedom of speech.

In fact I'd go so far as to say even the West doesn't really. Hate speech laws basically already contradict the very idea of freedom of speech. What about the President of the United States himself being censored??

Are you still this deluded?

lol

Yes China doesn't. It never said it did. India kept harping on about it while lynching people who said disagreeable uncomfortable truths and attacking those they could not reach with disinfo campaigns and trolling.

India performs communication blackouts and censorship on a level that China hasn't even witnessed since the old dark days of revolution lol.

ougoah said:

They think those 20+ are reincarnated as sex toys belonging to bobbed up white females but really probably reincarnated as diarrhea squeezed into the Pooootra river by A-leet brahmin assholes

In all seriousness though, Chinese are already kinda angry that even 5 PLA were lost to chimp activity. Those men were murdered and the IA set up some precedent for violence.

I am waiting for Indian gov to refute the claims but they will probably not because that requires evidence and will become challenged by China. Also considering Indian gov got the bitch side of the deal so they probably have their mouths shut for good now.

China released information. Factual ones the Indians can't refute. Indian gov silent and sitting down with nothing more to say.

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I think people are pissed that they were tortured to death ISIS style.

The retaliation doesn’t bring any solace to the victims’ families.

I thought at most 1 died initially and then the reinforcements came to avenge. But it’s 5 tragic casualties during a negotiation.


Indian army needs to be dealt with like terrorist organizations from now on.

localizer said:

I think people are pissed that they were tortured to death ISIS style.

The retaliation doesn’t bring any solace to the victims’ families.

I thought at most 1 died initially and then the reinforcements came to avenge. But it’s 5 tragic casualties during a negotiation.


Indian army needs to be dealt with like terrorist organizations from now on.

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I don’t recall ISIS executing negotiators. Prisoners, definitely. Negotiators? Neither practical nor necessary.

sukhoi_30MKI said:

The same amount of points Mongol Kublai khan gave to smaller Chinese kingdoms (fighting each other) when they invaded you.

regarding freedom of speech, west has their own standards and India has its own. Chinese have none.

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Not even close to amount of points Portuguese gave to you when they invaded & enslaved you. British just did better version of it when you were busy whopping each other's azz.

Regarding freedom of speech, West has cartoon standards,their colonized convict Indians have no elephant-ape insulting tolerance standard. China & rest follow none.

localizer said:

I think people are pissed that they were tortured to death ISIS style.

The retaliation doesn’t bring any solace to the victims’ families.

I thought at most 1 died initially and then the reinforcements came to avenge. But it’s 5 tragic casualties during a negotiation.

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Well the Indians were happy about it all and were loudly celebrating any violence they dish out.

This is unsurprising coming from the country who ties up Kasmiris on the front of military vehicles and execute and rape their way through those who cannot fight back.

Chinese anger at the way the Indians treated POWs/ ambushed PLA is justified but the CCP will do nothing about it as they focus only on higher strategic goals. Well in some way, 20+ IA deaths are roughly commensurate with what they put 5 PLA through. Unfortunately those IA probably were not executed in the same brutal fashion but through their own hilariously broken command and incompetence. There is a slight chance the PLA did perform executions in retaliation. Something we'll probably never know.

Babu's head was smashed open though for being partially if not entirely responsible for the murder of at least 1 PLA. Chinese officially placed the entire blame of June violence onto "rogue" Indian commander so we'd assume it's Babu. His photo was leaked after all. China officially penning the incident to Babu was NOT refuted by India as it is if anything at least a good excuse for the broken command.

siegecrossbow said:

I don’t recall ISIS executing negotiators. Prisoners, definitely. Negotiators? Neither practical nor necessary.

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Maybe there is no comparison. India is India.

An exclusive approach is needed when dealing with them. Basically 0 trust.


All negotiations will be done on Zoom.

ougoah said:

They think those 20+ are reincarnated as sex toys belonging to bobbed up white females but really probably reincarnated as diarrhea squeezed into the Pooootra river by A-leet brahmin assholes

In all seriousness though, Chinese are already kinda angry that even 5 PLA were lost to chimp activity. Those men were murdered and the IA set up some precedent for violence.

I am waiting for Indian gov to refute the claims but they will probably not because that requires evidence and will become challenged by China. Also considering Indian gov got the bitch side of the deal so they probably have their mouths shut for good now.

China released information. Factual ones the Indians can't refute. Indian gov silent and sitting down with nothing more to say.

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1.this is not a porno website and casteism is India's internal issue that doesn't affect China in anyway.

2. Chinese are angry because after months Chinese govt is accepting the no of casualties and even then Chinese are not sure about the numbers? And arrests of people who questions

3. What is there to refute?

4. ????? Factual one and Indian can't refute? Indians are happy now that China started revealing casualties.

I think the Bhakts take the concept of internet victory very seriously. Apparently it isn’t enough for them to “win” on Twitter, Facebook, Wikipedia, and their own defense forums but here as well. Well hats off to you. May your victories be many and everlasting and may it bring joy to you and your families.

ougoah said:

More evidence the Chinese version of events was true. The Indians were always armed in photos from 2019 until those fights. They even shared the video of them beating on a sole PLA soldier - the comm officer who exited vehicle for talks and got ambushed by the frustrated Jai Hinds. Looks like they executed at least one other PLA soldier in cold blood. Can't say PLA executing their commander and lieutenant was unwarranted even with only the IA killing the comms officer and those they dragged into their midst.

Even if PLA killed the other 20+ in cold blood would honestly be justified as retaliation. They should just be thankful the PLA had mercy for the 40+ captives China returned. A more hot-headed PLA decision maker would have massacred the Indians. Command structure preserved vs IA chimping out.

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Of course the Chinese version of events are true, established by the fact that throughout the span of over 8 months, not even a word of dishonesty was uttered by official Chinese sources, and at this point there is no reason to give Indian accounts any benefit of the doubt here.

That particular clip is pretty infuriating to say the least. If that isn't a giant act of cowardice from the Indian side, then nothing is. And I invite users here to go check some old posts in this site made prior to 6/15, where PLA soldiers were called cowardly and spoiled children. Yet you'd think that for 'brave' Indian soldiers who deal with these 'cowards', they wouldn't resort to even more pathetic acts of cowardice, set up petty ambushes, and still get routed after beaten into a state of complete disarray. And some of them got captured too, making it all the more hilarious when you see them do exactly what they did when they screwed up against Pakistan: only start beating the war drums harder once their prisoners are returned.

Beginning to have second thoughts about what I said earlier at this point. Maybe the video of the raw footage should have been published much earlier, if only to justify the case for executing at least an equal number of their prisoners. Giving them the benefit of the doubt is just asking for them to take advantage of it. In any case, if there is any indicator of them pulling these 'stunts' that might lead to a repeat of these events, PLA could just spare the time, effort, and lives by trying to communicate with them using rocket artillery instead.

lp1g said:

1.this is not a porno website and casteism is India's internal issue that doesn't affect China in anyway.

2. Chinese are angry because after months Chinese govt is accepting the no of casualties and even then Chinese are not sure about the numbers? And arrests of people who questions

3. What is there to refute?

4. ????? Factual one and Indian can't refute? Indians are happy now that China started revealing casualties.

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In the very first disclosure by the Chinese MOD they clearly stated “caused casualties to personnel”. But casualties could mean both injuries and death and they didn’t elaborate on it at the time.

Why are Indians happy that China is revealing casualties? You guys are happy that you got some licks in?