Ladakh Flash Point

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It's only insulting because Indians have internalised the racism of the anglos into their national psyche; getting their arses kicked by the white anglo was not shameful, but getting pwned by them yellows resulted in a decades long grudge. These indians think like colonised chinese of the hong kong and taiwan areas; in their hierarchy of races, to be pwned by not just the white man and the yellow man can only mean that they are lower even than the yellow man, which means they are at the bottom of the totem pole of white western racial ideology.

To the caste conscious indian leadership, the effect is rather predictable.

Exactly. The british Raj manipulated the Indian psyche where they successfully embed themselves into caste system and actively promote the practice. Henceforth, They are a new caste above Brahmin and British monarchy was the apex of the caste system.

I do not know if Indians are conscious or not, but I see this phenomenon in many Indian to this day.
 

davidau

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Exactly. The british Raj manipulated the Indian psyche where they successfully embed themselves into caste system and actively promote the practice. Henceforth, They are a new caste above Brahmin and British monarchy was the apex of the caste system.

I do not know if Indians are conscious or not, but I see this phenomenon in many Indian to this day.
Totally agree with your analysis. Unfortunately the populace themselves are not aware of it, alas, they think because they speak Inglish, therefore a cut above other countries.. they are deluding themselves totally.
 

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Exactly. The british Raj manipulated the Indian psyche where they successfully embed themselves into caste system and actively promote the practice. Henceforth, They are a new caste above Brahmin and British monarchy was the apex of the caste system.

I do not know if Indians are conscious or not, but I see this phenomenon in many Indian to this day.
If these indians are so insistent on having Anglos being above them in their caste system, then perhaps China should impress upon them with fire, sword, gun and missile, that the Chinese sit above the Anglo on their hierarchy of being.
 

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, the jawans of 16 Bihar regiment, using the most "primitive fighting methods", snapped the necks of at least 18 PLA troops and smashed their faces beyond recognition,
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Deccan Chronicle.

The jawans of 16 Bihar were reportedly joined by the 'Ghatak' troops. Together, they "unleashed a reign of terror, unheard in modern military history", the report said.
Over at DFI still believe in that shit
 
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Over at DFI still believe in that shit

How convenient. If the faces were smashed beyond recognition then they can’t be identified, and hence the Indians can inflate it to as high as they want.

On a serious note anyone who has seen a video of the Indians in an actual fight won’t believe this B.S. They only put up a resistance if they outnumber their opponents at least 3 to 1.
 

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I wonder what happened to those 160 indian soldiers who got captures, broken bones, fractured skulls, not to mention those poor 90 indian troops who got manhandled by 15 PLA troops, broken necks, thrown into frozen rivers while running away in terror.
RIP :(

Well the Chinese side say those Indians died from their injuries and/or exposure. The Indian military did not send help or come to collect them for an entire night. It's hard to survive if you've run from the fight and got separated. The captured Indians number over 40. I don't think it's 160 but Chinese military leaks say there was about 100 captured Indians who were returned over the span of a few days while the more senior jawans were held for longer. The entire horde was several hundred strong and the Indian lost MORE than 20 men. 20+ figure is admitted by Modi's government and its military. They will not say exactly how many but kept it at "over 20" then it became 20 lol. Indian journalists turned >20 to ≥ 20 to =20 in a matter of weeks.

The difference in general attitude between south asians and east asians is right here for all to see.

Even when Chinese side captured at least 40 enemy soldiers and action led to the deaths of over 20, they try not to draw attention to it. The Chinese state just said fighting happened and casualties on both sides as an out. But they publicly show them returning the captured Indians. Even more, there was no bragging about smashing skulls and breaking necks. Kindly remember to separate the Chinese state from internet users. Even if the PLA stomped the faces off those 20+ jawans which may or may not have happened, they won't even mention it despite the facts being India lose over 20 men and had dozens captured which is admitted by both sides officially while China admits they lost one communication officer and two PLA soldiers succumbed to their injuries days after the fight.

The Indians will write up fantasy epics about jawan heroism. The same guys that ran from the fight after PLA sent reinforcements. There were hundreds of Jawans and they bravely killed a PLA comm officer and attacked some civilian construction guys when they were outnumbers 100 to 1 or so. Then ran off without their colonel and lieutenant when the real fight started with more or less equal numbers. How else would their first and second in command get captured and killed otherwise? It was pathetic cowardness from jawans. I guess the more sensible ones surrendered and gave themselves up while others made a mad run. But that's the Chinese story. The PLA could easily have actually killed those jawans in cold blood after seeing how lowly they sunk to violently initiate an attack on a Chinese post.
 

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Recall how quickly the Indian shifted tactics after the June fighting. They lost so traumatically they have not dared to touch a Chinese tent after that. The Indians started using a new tactic of intruding into mutually agreed Chinese land (Reqin and points south of Pangong) in an attempt to carve out their new claims maybe in an effort to negotiate and swap but none of those were held by the Indians for meaningful time or purpose like constructing posts. Perhaps during negotiations, the Chinese side showed some material that made the Indians leave quick smart.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if non-lethal weapons were used on the Indians. Microwave weapons are indeed perfect. Hopefully no long term injuries and certainly non-lethal but effective in making a stretch of land uninhabitable for the time being. Also could explain why the Indians have since stopped intruding into parts that are held by China or mutually agreed Chinese land.

One has to wonder why the Indian tactic of more daring salami slicing and road building in 2019 was stopped by the fighting and confrontation responses from PLA during first half of 2020 then Indian tactics of annoying intrusion was responded with mysterious unspoken means from PLA and now the Indians have stopped their annoying intrusions. Remember how loudly the CCP mouthpieces complained about small trivial Indian intrusions when they targeted spots south of pangong lake? And how loudly the Jai Hind idiots bragged when they managed to "capture" some unguarded areas? All of that have stopped. China has not ordered PLA to move back to previous LAC. Do the maths and it becomes clear PLA resolved all those pesky Indian tactics and resolved them successfully without moving backwards. China did it without a peep. Compare and contrast the ways of a winner with those of a stupid loud mouthed loser.

How that clown Modi still finds so much support in India really reflects their collective psyche troubles and their worryingly extreme national chauvinism. In a functioning democracy, they wouldnt be performing all that propaganda to keep Modi afloat. This isn't even considering their economy which was in decline since 2018 and the multiple social unrest that coincided with their economic decline.
 
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Its already 2021. To think that everything started from this, on Aug 6th, 2019. 1 day after Article 370 was revoked.
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No Indian or Western media would ever bring this speech up as the starting point of the China-India border crisis. To them India is always right, and China is always evil. Till this day the narrative has always been: "Chinese unprovoked aggression". In truth, after this speech, China and Pakistan furiously protested. It was a unilateral redrawing of the map by India, disregarding all their disputes. But so arrogantly, India and the West conveniently ignored their complaints.

Then India starts building roads at the disputed area. At the same time the Indian media was doom-mongering and laughing when China was facing the Covid-19 outbreak in Wuhan. China rightly saw this as a blatant Indian attempt to change the status quo on the ground.

So China had to respond, and responded in a big way. The PLA moved into the disputed area and occupied the Chinese claimed area. We ironically hear so much in India media about how "China is caught flat footed". Turns out it was India who was the one that was caught flat footed. India called this: Chinese aggression, Chinese invasion, intelligence failure, or whatever. But the fact of the matter is China cannot trust India anymore with regards to Aksai Chin. Thus force had to be used to draw the line on the ground first, and then negotiate a settlement. Even after that, India could never negotiate in good faith with China. It wanted the PLA out of the area, but refuse to commit to keeping Indian troops out too. Hence, the border crisis that continues to this day.

Amit Shah would never have imagined that India would loose more than just lives from his infamous speech at the Lok Sabha on Aug 6th 2019. To date, India had lost:
1) Jawans
2) Aksai Chin. How ironic!
3) Its most important trade partner and investor: China
4) Hence, from point 3. India still has economy, yes. Just that India had lost its 'Superpower' economy.
5) 155k+ Indian lives to Covid-19. Due to many things. But boycotting China is certainly up there as one of the big causes. Extremely likely that many more people have died, as India is suspiciously under-reporting.
6) Multilateral economic agreements like RCEP and BRI.
7) Tiktok and all the Chinese apps that Indians enjoyed. Indians can say that they agreed with this, but they cannot deny the pain.
8) Its soul to the Uncle Sam, the biggest scammer in world history.
9) Even more treasure. To procure all manner of toys and gears for its military.
10) The goodwill of its farmers. When the economy is sinking, people naturally start protesting. Its angry farmers for now.
11) Its prestige as a major power in Asia. Instead of Superpower 2020, India is now a basket case in Asia. Even fellow westerners were shocked at the power of Indian vitriol being hurled at their 'precious heroine', Greta Thunberg.

Who knows what more could India loose as it is digging in deeper and deeper into its row with China.
 
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