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Sardaukar20

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localizer said:
I'm just sick of all the racism from Indians ever since this Ladakh thing started.


Even animosity from Indians I personally know is more overt. Who knows what they're saying behind my back. It's always about my eyes and penis size.

They shift stances so easily.


I really don't want this to affect my professional life but here we are.
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Actually this anti-China racism from India started way before the Ladakh crisis. Even during pre-Modi times. Its a cultural thing. It could have started after the 1962 war, perhaps even before that.

But few can deny the anti-China fervor had really taken off in the Modi era. It got bad since Doklam 2017. But in 2020 its intensity started to shock me. It started not in Ladakh, but during the Wuhan Covid-19 outbreak.

The Indian media was really cruel towards China. Sometimes exceeding the Western media. They were among the earliest media to spin the 'Wuhan Lab' conspiracy. They say that Chinese people eat exotic animals, so these things will always happen to China. They were excited about the prospect of production potentially moving from China to India. They sensationalize the Indian and Western governments' rejection of Chinese PPE and test kits. They claim that Covid-19 is the end of China and now its India's chance to overtake them. They called Covid-19 the China Virus, Wuhan Virus, and CCP virus. I remembered all of this.

Then Ladakh happened, and here we are. Everything is coming up to the surface.

Good thing karma exists. Look at India now. I feel no pity for the Indian govt and the Jai Hind crowds. I only pity the poor and oppressed in India. Then again, Indian democracy couldn't give India the leaders they need. It only gave them the leaders they like. And it shows.
 
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I'm quite sure. Here is a map of Indian and Chinese positions around the LAC. Chinese positions are right up to the LAC in the various contested areas but do not go beyond the LAC. The Indian claims of 1000+ square kilometers being seized by China are just plainly ridiculous. China would need to push 4~5 kilometers beyond the LAC across the entire Ladakh frontier to take that much territory.

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The LAC isn't a line. In many places its poorly demarcated.
In the Pangong Tso region, it existed as "fingers". Poorly demarcated areas that only had military tags on mountain ridges and existed as Military lingo.

China taking the fingers are being asserted as the " 1000 SQ mile lost" claim.

Again, since it is a very mountainous terrain, 1000 sq km is simply them taking ridges.
 
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Actually this anti-China racism from India started way before the Ladakh crisis. Even during pre-Modi times. Its a cultural thing. It could have started after the 1962 war, perhaps even before that.

But few can deny the anti-China fervor had really taken off in the Modi era. It got bad since Doklam 2017. But in 2020 its intensity started to shock me. It started not in Ladakh, but during the Wuhan Covid-19 outbreak.

The Indian media was really cruel towards China. Sometimes exceeding the Western media. They were among the earliest media to spin the 'Wuhan Lab' conspiracy. They say that Chinese people eat exotic animals, so these things will always happen to China. They were excited about the prospect of production potentially moving from China to India. They sensationalize the Indian and Western governments' rejection of Chinese PPE and test kits. They claim that Covid-19 is the end of China and now its India's chance to overtake them. They called Covid-19 the China Virus, Wuhan Virus, and CCP virus. I remembered all of this.

Then Ladakh happened, and here we are. Everything is coming up to the surface.

Good thing karma exists. Look at India now. I feel no pity for the Indian govt and the Jai Hind crowds. I only pity the poor and oppressed in India. Then again, Indian democracy couldn't give India the leaders they need. It only gave them the leaders they like. And it shows.
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Same sentiment here regarding karma. Just to note their bs really started to be active during HK shenanigans.

I have a feeling that if Ladakh was a Chinese offensive, it was because of Indian collusion with the West on issues such as HK. Their English propaganda machine was particularly active then.
 
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Same sentiment here regarding karma. Just to note their bs really started to be active during HK shenanigans.

I have a feeling that if Ladakh was a Chinese offensive, it was because of Indian collusion with the West on issues such as HK. Their English propaganda machine was particularly active then.
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Exactly. During the HK 2019 riots. I watched a lot of FB and YT. Aside from the usual suspects. Damn, Indians were very vocal in the comments section, cheering the 'Free HK' and 'Stand with HK' slogan. I didn't watch Indian media at that time, so I can only speculate that their media must be feeding a lot of anti-China, pro-HK BS. Then Indian abrogated Article 370 and Amit Shah loudly proclaimed that Aksai Chin belongs to India. That probably spooked China into preparing for a possible Indian landgrab at Aksai Chin.

Forward to 2020, the antics of the Indian media and Indian govt towards China during the Wuhan Covid-19 outbreak got some attention. I'm sure China saw it, but just ignored it at first to concentrate on more pressing matters. Then I think that during this time, when China was busy fighting Covid-19. India started building more roads in Ladakh, possibly over or near disputed areas. Remembering what India did at 2017 in Doklam, where Indian troops marched through Bhutan to confront PLA troops there over a road construction on disputed land. I think when China saw this, it decided to act fast and decisively. No more Mr nice guy this time. The PLA pushed ahead and took large swaths of land belonging to China. India was decisively preempted. At first I was unsure if that was the right thing for China to do, considering the bad PR situation then. But now I am fully convinced that that was the best thing for China to have done. India finally showed its true colors after that.
 
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Exactly. During the HK 2019 riots. I watched a lot of FB and YT. Aside from the usual suspects. Damn, Indians were very vocal in the comments section, cheering the 'Free HK' and 'Stand with HK' slogan. I didn't watch Indian media at that time, so I can only speculate that their media must be feeding a lot of anti-China, pro-HK BS. Then Indian abrogated Article 370 and Amit Shah loudly proclaimed that Aksai Chin belongs to India. That probably spooked China into preparing for a possible Indian landgrab at Aksai Chin.

Forward to 2020, the antics of the Indian media and Indian govt towards China during the Wuhan Covid-19 outbreak got some attention. I'm sure China saw it, but just ignored it at first to concentrate on more pressing matters. Then I think that during this time, when China was busy fighting Covid-19. India started building more roads in Ladakh, possibly over or near disputed areas. Remembering what India did at 2017 in Doklam, where Indian troops marched through Bhutan to confront PLA troops there over a road construction on disputed land. I think when China saw this, it decided to act fast and decisively. No more Mr nice guy this time. The PLA pushed ahead and took large swaths of land belonging to China. India was pre-empted. At first I was unsure if that was the right thing for China to do, considering the bad PR situation then. But now I am fully convinced that that was the best thing for China to have done. India finally showed its true colors after that.
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Yeah I find one way to tell apart indian propaganda from FLG and 5 eyes propaganda is the overt racism. Either way they all pretend to be hongkongers or white.

In terms of sponsored propaganda:

FLG likes to use “CCP bad” (CCP virus)

Five eyes n West in general uses “China bad” (Mostly China Virus/Flu)

Indians (and also TW HK terrorists) like to use “Chinese bad” (Chinese virus) with Indians going towards Nazi level racism
 
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NiuBiDaRen

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Indians (and also TW HK terrorists) like to use “Chinese bad” (Chinese virus) with Indians going towards Nazi level racism
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They use Sir a lot too. "Sir stop drinking bat soup sir"

In all honesty you're right about them pretending to be a Westerner and using Nazi language a lot. However they also make a lot of grammatical mistakes. Somehow they can be offensive without projecting that loss of innocence
 
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