The West only takes the highly educated ones. If anything it is making the situation worse.
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The West only takes the highly educated ones. If anything it is making the situation worse.
The problem with India is that it's run by Brahmins and Vaishya, not Kshatriya and Shudras. If it were run by a substantial Kshatriya-Shudra alliance, they'd be on the same wavelength as China; the Kshatriyas are the traditional political rulers of India alongside their military castes, and the Shudra caste is their traditional working class. For that, Kshatriya-Shudras, read Confucian Communist in a Chinese mode. The Brahmins are too abstract and theoretical, and Vaishya tend to economic dominance. A Kshatriya-Shudra alliance, in contrast, would be left and progressive based on its constituents (military elites tend to be less conservative than civilian elites because being too conservative gets you killed on the battlefield, Shudras are a potential hotbed of class struggle and worker consciousness).
The big drag on India is the traditional social structure, i.e, the caste system results in massive oppression and human capital wastage. You have Brahmins who pay lip service to anti-Brahmanism (the ideology against the caste system), but in practice they're its beneficiaries and don't want to put in too much effort to bring it down.
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The idea that India would have 4:3 the strength of China is based on a best-case scenario, i.e, it assumes both India and China can successfully modernize and develop. With the caste system in (partial) place, India is not going to be able to successfully modernize and develop unless they do something about it. But let's say they fix it. The 4:3 strength is what the Indians are counting on, but the 4:3 strength isn't sufficient for India to take aggressive action against China vis-a-vis the Arthashastra. So the Indian foreign policy vis-a-vis China is just plain stupid.
Hi siegecrossbow,
Copy and agree with your point siege. The west are afraid of China is due to its massive educated and skilled populace, they are afraid they will be overwhelmed, what more with Indians which had more discriminatory practices placed on them. That is why this QUAD Alliance wont work, their fragile ego won't accept a subservient status.
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A huge population is a big structural disadvantage for India. India is not a big market for anything (well, maybe gold) despite of its large population. The largely uneducated and undernourished young people are not productive workers, and therefore are not meaningful consumers. India would need to bootstrap itself, either internally or externally. But the global market is not large enough for such a large, low-skilled or no-skilled population. India has been very successful with IT and service outsourcing boom over the last two decades. How many people does the industry employ in India? A couple of millions, in a nation of 1.4 billion, with a revenue somewhat over $100 billions. And the industry has peaked now. Traditionally, manufacturing would be the only promising industry, but, alas, it's a bit too late in the game. So many countries are competing for the same industry. Plus mass manufacturing jobs are increasingly automated and AI'd away. In order to bootstrap internally and attract large-scale FDI, India would have to change drastically their societal and political systems (democracy is not enough); in fact, nothing short of revolution will do given where they. Frankly, it's unfair and unrealistic to expect India or any large country to undergo such changes in a reasonable time frame.
Then, if those young people do not get employed productively in their primes, they will become liability to the society and family when they become old. It would further drag down their chance of taking off down the road.
I'm not trying to bash Indian people; we all know that there are many outstanding Indians and I've persoanlly met many of them. The problem is not individual, it's systemic and structural.
Bingo.
This is more true when you are talking about Upcoming shupah pawah 2012 who must not be named
The West will fight China to the last Indian
Hi Nobonita Barua,
We, here in SDF don't want to bash and discriminate the Indians, but sometimes their boastfulness and arrogance need to be countered and corrected. Even a friendly discussion and gentle reminder is an affront to them. They take it very personally even if the problem is glaring in front of their eyes. I think its their defense mechanism, to portray that they are an advance society capable of great changes, it's all in the mind, an illusion, cause they know they are powerless to do any meaningful change.
Oh not againThe West will fight China to the last Indian
Not total GDP but GDP per capita that India had fallen behind Bangladesh in 2020.
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It's not even that. Current IMF figures show Bangladesh behind India per capita.
The issue is about growth for this year, no doubt due to the fact that India has had a heavier lockdown to stop the spread of Covid-19 than Bangladesh, which has affected its economy heavily.
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