Ladakh Flash Point
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Maybe this is why they've become even more bitter after disengagement. Have to revert to pathetic racism to soothe their egos.
How about they just feel reassured that at least it's India now that is refusing to disengage and end the stand off. China is waiting for them to vacate disputed land but India continues to resist and refuse. I'd give the current upper hand to India if we're only looking at the 20%. They have far more new infrastructure building up towards the 20% piece while China only has their old ones and expanding some of them along with just that new road from F5 to F8 which is really not that important and honestly can be used by the Indians if they capture F4 to F8.
It's interesting to note that this was supposed to be mutually disengaged since Feb but still hasn't as far as we know. India is just as much an aggressor on this remaining 20% as China is. China presents the story that they were reacting to Indian build up and patrolling which is a matter of fact. India has only ever hinted at their own aggression from VK Singh's own words. Beyond that, they deny they were making moves on the 20% stretch.
The standoff won't end until one side gives in and allows the non-Pangong bits of the 20% to become de facto controlled by the other with increasing patrols and eventually permanent build up and settlement within this land. Or if India agrees to the next best thing which is a buffer meaning neither side get the entire 20%. This is the bargain China is aiming for and since Feb, India has been refusing!
Why does India refuse? To maintain the option of one day capturing the full amount or at least more than the 20%. If they settle for a demarcated line or buffer zone, they get nothing. No surprises India is refusing to budge here and is still within the disputed land.
China won't escalate. It has nothing to gain and everything to lose. India had the choice to escalate back when PLA held F4 to F8 for bargaining power but India did not start shooting. India has much less reason now to escalate but have more to gain and almost nothing to lose... except lives and material of course.
BTW there were/are in China about as many people (adjusted for population size) who consume bats in whatever form as there are Indians who eat rats and humans i.e. exceedingly rare beyond rare. Chinese do not eat bats. It's not a cuisine or even minority local delicacy like it was in Italy. I mean there are even some minority tribes in India who practice cannibalism for example. Prions.
The video of Chinese woman dining on bat soup was shot in Palau Indonesia where bats ARE a part of diet albeit not that common.
Funny how these asshats need to revert to this sort of racism and perpetuating it to feel good. Bringing others down with lies and contributing to the erosion of human decency. It sums up what China is (silent victim) and represents vs Western world (false morality and lies) and its manipulative devilish ways. Indians were not like this in the past but since independence and all the malevolence that came with those westernised values and thinking, they have become as bad in this manner. Asians have typically been much more balanced, reserved, non-confrontational, and certainly never bothered to perpetuate lies and hate like this.
There are more cannibals per capita in the US than there are bat eaters in China. No one person who has traveled throughout China would have found bats in any restaurants or menus or markets! The ONLY use for bats in China have been in processed powder form for some rare "traditional" medicines that 99% of Chinese people have long ignored and do not buy or use. Processed bat parts are also some of the rarest unused components of certain rare meds that most people aren't even aware of but for the few that do, there is still a market for it. That's less than lab bats for research.
The English publications that showed bats in markets were ALL photographs from other parts of Asia where bats were sold. DailyMail and those publications even captioned those photos with the truth i.e. "Market bat meat from Palau or xyz place (not in China)" but the entire article would talk about chinks eating bats etc. Can't help those who want to perpetuate or participate in organised hate campaigns but that's what they want to do with China and that's the kind of evil they perpetuate and will be returned in karmic/ devine judgement. We can be victims of that racism modern Indians are helping to spread (in fact mostly being spread by them and their BJP controlled trolls and media-fake news brigade). Such is life. It's ironic that people who used to be so culturally and socially decent are now corrupted like this. Malevolent world can do horrible things.
The video of Chinese woman dining on bat soup was shot in Palau Indonesia where bats ARE a part of diet albeit not that common.
Funny how these asshats need to revert to this sort of racism and perpetuating it to feel good. Bringing others down with lies and contributing to the erosion of human decency. It sums up what China is (silent victim) and represents vs Western world (false morality and lies) and its manipulative devilish ways. Indians were not like this in the past but since independence and all the malevolence that came with those westernised values and thinking, they have become as bad in this manner. Asians have typically been much more balanced, reserved, non-confrontational, and certainly never bothered to perpetuate lies and hate like this.
There are more cannibals per capita in the US than there are bat eaters in China. No one person who has traveled throughout China would have found bats in any restaurants or menus or markets! The ONLY use for bats in China have been in processed powder form for some rare "traditional" medicines that 99% of Chinese people have long ignored and do not buy or use. Processed bat parts are also some of the rarest unused components of certain rare meds that most people aren't even aware of but for the few that do, there is still a market for it. That's less than lab bats for research.
The English publications that showed bats in markets were ALL photographs from other parts of Asia where bats were sold. DailyMail and those publications even captioned those photos with the truth i.e. "Market bat meat from Palau or xyz place (not in China)" but the entire article would talk about chinks eating bats etc. Can't help those who want to perpetuate or participate in organised hate campaigns but that's what they want to do with China and that's the kind of evil they perpetuate and will be returned in karmic/ devine judgement. We can be victims of that racism modern Indians are helping to spread (in fact mostly being spread by them and their BJP controlled trolls and media-fake news brigade). Such is life. It's ironic that people who used to be so culturally and socially decent are now corrupted like this. Malevolent world can do horrible things.
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Not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying there is something incorrect about detresfa's images(I am assuming he is who you mean by "pro Indian sources."
Sure, satellite imagery is not perfect, but they are the only clear and unbiased evidence we have to work with.
Not at all.
I'm saying his and all other internet OSINTs' materials do NOT show any evidence of India "winning" anywhere in anything. Troop movements in this disputed land has always been politically controlled not due to military fighting. There was no fighting save for some wrestling pushing fests and that night in June which turned lethal and possibly not by accident (we'll ignore this topic since it's been talked about for hundreds of pages).
Satellite footage only really proves one thing for certain - both sides were in and are in standoff within the disputed land stretch with China mostly at where they actually control i.e. not the aggressor at the present moment. Pangong was easily the focal point of the standoff has been disengaged.
China has been expanding some facilities which have long been there and behind the blue line.
Movements have happened back and forth according to political will and negotiations e.g. Pangong standoff and PLA going from F8 to F4 and then back to F8. If Indians want to make this particular aspect into some win, they should be asking themselves why PLA would go back to F8 if they held F4 and wanted to capture to F4. It wasn't because India was too scary otherwise they wouldn't have stayed there for a year and left unchallenged. They left and India agreed to not step beyond F3. If they want to believe that India never patrolled beyond F3 anyway, well they should feel good then. India won. Ignore that none of it adds up but whatever.
What else do satellites show? That Indian build up towards dispute was certainly happening and fairly significant compared to having nothing. Okay this balances what China's got on east of blue line so it's udnerstandable to me but the CCP considers that threatening and decided PLA occupying to F4 is the correct response/message - that China cares about the remaining 20% and won't let India begin setting up salami slicing de factor occupation starting with build up behind and patrols within.
They also show that right now, India has nothing to be complaining about and China is barely within disputed stretch at Gogra HS while India is far further in front of the LAC. This is my understanding! What interests me is why India refuses to disengage while the onus is now on them to. It must have a lot to do with understanding that disengaging which PLA would mirror with move behind blue line, would be a step towards establishing entire thing as buffer and a step towards losing Indian claims not only of the 20% but the 80% behind that.
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Is he the only one that the MAOISTS holding hostage?
I don’t know. Maybe the DFI folks can put on a uniform and get that information in person instead of spewing b.s. via keyboard?
lol. Can someone from DFI confirm how many Indian hostages in MAOISTS camp?
Well the myopic ones now totally manifested with hatred are firstly doing themselves massive disservice for fooling self. They are also setting themselves up for the same evil... one that lies for you in times of convenience will one day lie against you. It is a virtue to try and refrain from aligning your own person with forces of malevolence when they suit your agendas. But people are obviously hurting. Indians did come out of centuries of being mistreated and have had their status and wealth destroyed and robbed. Just not be us. We've done literally next to nothing to them even during our worst phases in the 20th century. A lot of the online trolls are actually BJP supported/financed and they are obvious. The rest are just hurting and the western narratives are effective at directing all the hate to Chinese people. Oh well. There are greater things in life to aspire to and work towards.
For the same lies that China is falling prey to, they themselves can easily times 100. That devil just hasn't directed much if any attention on them. Reasonable Indians have long understood all this but China India relations have diminished so much since the 2000s and they weren't great to begin with. It's just a shame Asians are kept in this sort of us and them (free vs evil commies) thinking paradigm by those engaged in information and psychological warfare. Whatever for China though. Got enough nukes for those bastards in the west if they kick the door down and got enough people and wealth to go along without them already. A period of animosity could be weathered without losing sight of what matters. Indian trolls working feverishly on helping that devil are setting their own futures up in its pit. I'm not saying China is perfect and their leaders always virtuous and decent but wrt the geopol, China is in the struggle of its life and soul. If it comes out on top with the right to self determination and government, hopefully it would stand for a better future where the world isn't kept in the western false morality cycle where the poor are condemned to be their slaves and charity cases without ever finding the real means to rise. Meanwhile the agenda is to keep the "other" in perpetual conflict. Both sides here have actually remained sensible wrt escalating.
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