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manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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twineedle said:
By "Colonial Empire" I was referring to Portugal. But that would require you to do some basic research.
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Well, I'm talking about Britain. I like to do research on elite cultures like Sparta and the Mongols. I don't have much interest in cultures known for failure so I don't know much details about India but I know enough of the general picture not to let Indians squirm a fake victory even in words.
twineedle said:
And no, India hasn't lost land. Satellite images prove that.
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It has just as it fails at everything. @Xsizor has proven your dated images to be meaningless.
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If you have any clear evidence showing otherwise, please present it. But you have none.
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I don't feel like reposting all of anther poster's replies on here especially since you are known to go in circles with your "trust these Indians, not those Indians" logic and selective blindness to other's evidence.
twineedle said:
If anything, China has lost territory, considering India recently occupied Chinese territory according to the Chinese embassy statement.
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Failure in reading comprehension, whether real or self-imposed from desire to misunderstand, will not save you face either. The statement simply means that China claims even more territory than it has taken. India will lose them as well if it instigates again.
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Once again, if you have any clear unbiased evidence proving otherwise please present it.
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Refer to 2 sentences up but if you want clear unbiased evidence then, we couldn't use any Indians sources because the entire country is known for lying (in obvious and often easily debunks ways at that) to cope with their failures.
 
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manqiangrexue said:
Well, I'm talking about Britain. I like to do research on elite cultures like Sparta and the Mongols. I don't have much interest in cultures known for failure so I don't know much details about India but I know enough of the general picture not to let Indians squirm a fake victory even in words.

And @Xsizor has proven your dated images to be meaningless.

I don't feel like reposting all of anther poster's replies on here especially since you are known to go in circles with your "trust these Indians, not those Indians" logic and selective blindness to other's evidence.

Failure in reading comprehension, whether real or self-imposed from desire to misunderstand, will not save you face either. The statement simply means that China claims even more territory than it has taken. India will lose them as well if it instigates again.

Refer to 2 sentences up but if you want clear unbiased evidence then, we couldn't use any Indians sources because the entire country is known for lying to cope with their failures.
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Ok so you have no evidence. Thank you for admitting that. The fact is, China failed to capture Indian territory it claims. Instead, India occupied territory claimed by China for the first time since 1962.

Still waiting on you to provide any sort of clear and unbiased evidence.

And I thought all Indian sources are lying, according to you? That is why most of the evidence I have provided is from non-Indian sources. Ironically, the only sources you have are unfounded claims from Indian political activists and bloggers, that have been debunked by satellite imagery from third-party sources.
 
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Ok so you have no evidence. Thank you for admitting that. The fact is, China failed to capture Indian territory it claims. Instead, India occupied territory claimed by China for the first time since 1962.

Still waiting on you to provide any sort of clear and unbiased evidence.
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Bold 1: If India did do that, the entire world will sit up and notice. Not to mention, the media houses would have a field day.

But that's a fiction. The reality is that India realized that India still can't gain anything from China.

What more, as the back and forth of the last few hundred pages made things clear - India's government likely had to shift the LAC back.
 
manqiangrexue

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twineedle said:
Ok so you have no evidence. Thank you for admitting that.
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OK so you have no reading comprehension. Thank you for admitting that.
twineedle said:
The fact is, China failed to capture Indian territory it claims.
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Indian "facts" are just what Indians use to cope with failure.
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Instead, India occupied territory claimed by China for the first time since 1962.
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Doesn't even need evidence to refute; just a cursory understanding of English will reveal Indian coping techniques and how Indian "facts" are created.

"Failure in reading comprehension, whether real or self-imposed from desire to misunderstand, will not save you face either. The statement simply means that China claims even more territory than it has taken. India will lose them as well if it instigates again."
twineedle said:
Still waiting on you to provide any sort of clear and unbiased evidence.
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Get done with what was already given to you. Don't ask for seconds and thirds when you're still choking on your first plate and trying to slide it under the table.
 
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Bold 1: If India did do that, the entire world will sit up and notice. Not to mention, the media houses would have a field day.

But that's a fiction. The reality is that India realized that India still can't gain anything from China.

What more, as the back and forth of the last few hundred pages made things clear - India's government likely had to shift the LAC back.
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India has never had any camps or permanent infrastructure in the Galwan valley before last year. And even before last year, China has always claimed well beyond the lac(dotted line).
 
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manqiangrexue said:
OK so you have no reading comprehension. Thank you for admitting that.

Indian "facts" are just what Indians use to cope with failure.

Doesn't even need evidence to refute; just a cursory understanding of English will reveal Indian coping techniques and how Indian "facts" are created.

"Failure in reading comprehension, whether real or self-imposed from desire to misunderstand, will not save you face either. The statement simply means that China claims even more territory than it has taken. India will lose them as well if it instigates again."

Get done with what was already given to you. Don't ask for seconds and thirds when you're still choking on your first plate and trying to slide it under the table.
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Unfortunately for you, China has failed to take anything. Satellite imagery proves that.
 
manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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twineedle said:
Unfortunately for you, China has failed to take anything. Satellite imagery proves that.
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You have satellite imagery confused with Indian "facts" and copium. 20 dead Indians are what cannot be muddled so Indians say that's not important; the lives of Indian soldiers are not important. Everything else that can be muddled Indians replace it all with Indian copium, pat themselves on the back and sweep failure under the rug (AKA prepare for future failure) or even give medals for it. Your short and meaningless repeated verses show your broken ego and inability to argue while my point-to-point responses show that you are demonstrably incorrect everywhere.
 
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Xizor

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twineedle said:
India has never had any camps or permanent infrastructure in the Galwan valley before last year. And even before last year, China has always claimed well beyond the lac(dotted line).
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We all know India claims entirety of Aksai Chin.
And China does claim entirety of Galwan Valley (that is relatively new).

Do everyone a service and stop dragging in Claims.

Which LAC? Do we have an agreement on the LAC? The new LAC or the traditional LAC?
 
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