KJ-600 carrierborne AEWC thread & possible KY-600 (?) COD aircraft

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Clearly, there are a lot of antennas in the lower part of the fuselage to prove the level of its electronic detection and countermeasure technology.View attachment 161593
This is very important. KJ-600 wingspan is apparently 25m and length is 18m. You can space out all these antennas along the belly of the aircraft as well as the large wing. Whereas for flankers, you can basically only do it on the wings.

So, something like J-15DT probably can't do ESM as well as KJ-600. It seems to me something that's just more easily do-able when the passive detectors are spaced out.

I see one noticeable antenna sticking out under the wing, but I wonder if it's installed on the wing tip also
 

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I am sure the designers have taken the heat emitted by those big turbo prop engines into consideration but for an aircraft is constructed out of aluminum and I personally would prefer to see the hot exhaust from a turboprop engine not directly hitting the rear control surface of the aircraft. If Grumman, who have been building the E2 AWACS for decades, saw fit to move both the horizontal and vertical stabilizers of that aircraft out of the direct line of the hot engine exhaust then that is good enough for me but I fully accept that just because the Americans do something one way doesn't mean that is the only way it can be done.
I fail to see that difference between E2 and KJ-600. What do you mean?

1. Engine exhausts offset of vertical stablizers.
E2 engines are slightly inwards, looking from front and from afar. The viewing distance is impartant to reduce/eliminate perspective distortion.
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I can not find a perfect frontal photo of KJ-600. But this one shows a large difference between distances of engines/vertical stablizers of each side. That means that the engines are installed inwardly (closer to fuselage) than vertical stablizers. This is the same thing as E-2.

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2. Horizontal stablizers out of the way of jet exhaust.
KJ-600's engine is mounted under the wing which is on the same level as the stablizer.
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Same in E-2
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Conclusion, both aircraft are designed in the same way for whatever concern you have.

Also worth to note, the trailing edges of E-2 is right within the path of the hot exhaust. If it has no problem of being there why is it a problem for stablizers that are meters away?

And even more importantly, the placement of these surfaces is probably NOT due to consideration of hot gas but rather more aerodynamic efficiency, e.g. in the right path of stable air flow.
 
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A Official nose photo from AVIC, including two intelligent probe-type air data calculators (there should be four symmetrical probes.red words says it's dangerous because it's a thermal probe. ), and the upper probe near the cockpit is an icing detector(and below one should be another detector,but I couldn't see everything clearly.).1000020312.jpg
 
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A Official nose photo from AVIC, including two intelligent probe-type air data calculators (there should be four symmetrical probes.red words says it's dangerous because it's a thermal probe. ), and the upper probe near the cockpit is an icing detector(and below one should be another detector,but I couldn't see everything clearly.).View attachment 161696
The one at the bottome is TAT 大气总温传感器 Total Air Tempareture (probe).
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i was listening to guancha today and they made an interesting point. The aircraft are not going to be taking off and landing at this stage with maximum load (especially not on the first launch).

So the MTOW of KJ-600 off CV-18 is likely even higher than 32t, maybe close to 35t. The advantage in electronics it can carry over E-2D is quite large.

I wouldn't be surprised if the EMAL catapult can launch aircraft as heavy as 40t.
 

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EM cat can launch aircraft beyond 40t.

EMALS's launch energy is 122MJ. PLAN papers often quote this number in their design too, so I assume Fujian's figure is around the same. To compare, steam cat's launch energy is 95MJ. So EM cat is 28% higher meaning 1.28 times of max launch weight. If F-35A's MTOW is 32t launched from a steam cat, EM cat can in theory lauch anything up to 41t only limited by structural strength of the aircraft.

Another thing to think is that steam cat has huge force at the begining and much lower force in the end. This means given the equal launch engergy (accelerating the same mass from 0 to takeoff speed), aircraft will be subjected to mucher higher stress from a steam cat. This means even if the steam cat's top energy is enough to launch X tonne, it may break it, so EM cat can always launch heavier load with the same energy.
 

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据介绍,空警-600 体积比空警-500A 小,但是它的作用发挥和空警-500A 预警机是一样的,可以让歼击机在海上看得更远,综合发挥海上作战体系的态势感知能力。作为一款舰载预警机,最大的特点就是机翼可以折叠起来,在航母上,就可以停更多的舰载预警机,在起飞和作战方面更有利于效能的发挥。

另外,舰载预警机功能十分先进,它和舰载战斗机一样,空警-600 舰载预警机也是安装了尾钩的,尾钩让飞机在航母上安全稳定着舰。

军事专家张军社表示,空警-600 固定翼预警机,是航母编队的“千里眼”和“空中大脑”,极大提高了航母编队远程探测预警和指挥引导能力,从而大幅度提升海军航母编队远海攻防作战能力。它比直升机和驱逐舰上的雷达发现来袭目标的距离更远,尤其对于超低空掠海飞行的导弹,能在更远距离上发现,克服了地球曲率的影响

空警-600 还保留着螺旋桨的设计是因为螺旋桨飞机适应性强,低速性能比喷气式飞机要强。螺旋桨飞机在低空低速飞行时,表现是比较出色的,这使得它们非常适合预警机进行空中侦察、预警、巡逻等任务。螺旋桨飞机的维护成本,也要比喷气式飞机低

据IT之家此前报道,在纪念中国人民抗日战争暨世界反法西斯战争胜利 80 周年大会上受阅的歼-15T、歼-35 和空警-600 三型舰载机,已于此前成功完成在福建舰上的首次弹射起飞和着舰训练。这是我国航母发展历程中取得的又一次突破,
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note the bolded part here. Says it can detect low skimming missiles at much longer distance than helicopter or destroyer radar due to being able to see further around earth's curvature.

Says turboprop's low speed performance better than jet aircraft which is ideal for ISR, EW & patrol. Also lower operating cost.

I wonder if they will produce a ASW/MPA version of this.
 
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