Kirov Class CGN in 1/350 scale
- Thread starter Jeff Head
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Chuck, I can see why it has languished.
In order to change the hull and other areas to make it right, you are talking about a pretty major remake on what Trumpter provides. There are other areas on the deck layout that are also not correct.
I have found with these vessels, that you can either be a real stickler, and then almost constantly be in research and build mold...and some people really, really like doing just that, and more power to them...or, you can accept what is there, make some modest changes and improvements, and get on with the task to give as best a representation as you can within your own time and project constraints.
I clearly fall into the latter category.
These vessels (as you say) were each somewhat different out of the chute, even though they were in the same class. That is not unusual for the Russian Navy. Then, for the Petr Velikiy specifically, it languished for years after launch because of the fall of th Soviet Union with very piecemeal work until finally being finished ten years later.
Now, almost every time it goes out to sea for any length of time, they tweak the thing when it comes back to port so it is almost impossible to keep up with it exaclty in terms of the specific equipment and arrangements on deck.
Here's another individual's great build that I was watching that I thought was doing an excellent job:
He started in October 2011, and his last post was in March 2012, but never finished his documentation. But he was clearly doing a fine job of documenting his work and the changes. Here are some of the changes he documented, and how they were turning out:
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Nice stuff.
Me? I am in the process for all of the world's major maritime powers who operate such groups...including the escorts. So I have a lot of work to do. As such, I am happy to let some of the more intricate details slide as I go about doing that. For example, my US group is centered on the USS Enterprise, CVN-65, and the UK group is centered on the HMS Invincible, R05. Well, now the Enterprise is decommissioned, and the Invincible is an LHA, and soon to be decommissioned sincve I finished those carriers.
When I finish the Russian group, do as much of the Brazilian group as I can (I have the Foch which I will build as the Sao Paulo (I have also obtained an air wing of 1/350 scale A-4s and some S-2 Trackers), and then go back and flesh out the rest of the escorts for the UK, French and Japanese groups I have already started...I hope by then that a Ford class and a QE class carrier are available in 1/350 scale to update my US and UK groups with.
Anyhow, thanks for the input, and good luck with your build. Please document it here for us to take a look at. I am sure it will be very well done and very meticulous. I would suggest for railings and sensors.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Don't your eyes get strain for doing that?
Thanks, my friend.Love what you did to the wall of the elevator shaft there Jeff. It gives a more in depth look and feel to it.
I used what we call a wash on that.
I still have some work to do aft there. I am going to fill in the helo hauling system tracks there that infringe into the raised area aft. That actually is not representative of the actual ship and is a pretty easy fix. Fill them in with some putty, sand them down flush, and then paint over them.
But that's part of the touch up and there are several little projects like that that I will address then.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
Don't feel bad. I drive my wife crazy pointing out flaws in movie continuity. You must either be an Engineer or Accountant.
I promise you...if the rivets are not all there where they are supposed to be, someone will start having a very bad day.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
We are a necessary evil Jeff. We are the neurotic people that keep things working and hopefully design things so they do not fail, fall apart. Well not too often at least.
I just love preparing construction specifications…….
PS: That vessel is defiantly a labor of love.
Incidentally, have you seen the inside of PV's helicopter hanger? It is like an evil scientists hideout.
Inside the hanger the Helicopters don't actually roll their wheels. They actually strap down on mechanized pallets that moves around on rails inside the hanger. When a heliopter needs to be sent up onto the flight deck, the pallet and helicopter would move side ways under the elevator opening, and then a system of hydraulic cables and claws would grasp the pallets and lift it, helicopter attached, up through the hatch to deck level.
Inside the hanger the Helicopters don't actually roll their wheels. They actually strap down on mechanized pallets that moves around on rails inside the hanger. When a heliopter needs to be sent up onto the flight deck, the pallet and helicopter would move side ways under the elevator opening, and then a system of hydraulic cables and claws would grasp the pallets and lift it, helicopter attached, up through the hatch to deck level.
SteelBird
Colonel
I've been feeling bad for both the Liaoning and her older sister should had been nuclear powered. Given such a large vessel and valuable space aboard, using conventional power on aircraft carrier is simply a waste. Since their 28,000 tons class cruiser have nuclear power, I just don't understand why the 60,000 class carriers use conventional power.