JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
Re: Jh-7 thread

yeah sure, why not? shal we install a proton cannon and energy sheilds while were at it?

seriously, how on earth do you make a plane invisible to the eye? the russians tried in the 30s, making a propellor plane almost entirely of a kind of french plastic. with only the engine standing out, it would be very difficult to see. the plastic,however, did fade to color after a while. but nowadays...thats impossible.
 

adeptitus

Captain
VIP Professional
Re: Jh-7 thread

MIGleader said:
seriously, how on earth do you make a plane invisible to the eye?

Fractal Camo?
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

:rofl:

Then there's also optical camo:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


It's still quite primitive, but in the future it might be a necessity to defeat optical guided missiles that recongize targets by its shape, size, and apperance.
 
Last edited:

Superior China

Banned Idiot
Re: Jh-7 thread

"defeat optical guided missiles that recongize targets by its shape, size, and apperance."

Its shape, size and apperance is called Radar signature. Every plane sends back a different "signature" indicating its shape, size, speed, barring etc.

Radar today locks-on onto this, the signature. That is the way it worked since say one. You have somehting mixed up!

And MigLeader it is possible, there are these camo-suits which are transparrent, or invisible. Bbio-hazzard suits will do the same!

Of course you too can install this on a plane!

But I have stated more recent which can be achieved today, not a few years in the future!

At least We have an equal start with this technology!
 

sumdud

Senior Member
VIP Professional
Re: Jh-7 thread

He is talking about LiDAR, not RaDAR........

There are SAMs that incorprate LiDAR you know.....
 

adeptitus

Captain
VIP Professional
Re: Jh-7 thread

Superior China said:
"defeat optical guided missiles that recongize targets by its shape, size, and apperance."
Its shape, size and apperance is called Radar signature. Every plane sends back a different "signature" indicating its shape, size, speed, barring etc.
Radar today locks-on onto this, the signature. That is the way it worked since say one. You have somehting mixed up!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Electro-optical seeker:

Conventional air-to-air missiles see targets as dots - a fact which makes it hard for the missile to tell between true or false targets .The Python 5's head seeker literally sees a clear image of the target and background, giving it an incredible advantage over other missiles by authenticating the target, thus reducing the chance of being mislead by counter measures. Using this technology allows the luxury of locking on a target after the launch. The transition to this unique technology required a development by RAFAEL, which exists in only several countries in the world. Using an electro-optical head seeker also makes it easier to locate and lock on low-heat signature aircrafts such as UAVs, helicopters or even cruise missiles. These aircrafts can fly very close to the ground and can be very hard to detect using regular head seekers. The Python 5 with the electro-optical head can easily accomplish that, by creating a sharp target image and locking on it. In order to achieve perfect performance and tracking ability, the engineers at RAFAEL tested the Python 5 against all advanced counter measures. Usually this is a tough challenge, as the missile would have to handle counter measures in the future. But that was not an impossible challenge to RAFAEL, which also develops the future counter measures. The unique head-seeker also extends the lethality of the missile by aiming it to the target's most vulnerable areas. Most heat seeking missiles tend to home on the hottest spot of the aircraft which is normally the rear exhaust system. In modern combat history, some aircrafts that were hit by a missile in that area, managed to survive the flight until the landing. The Python 5, which acquires a sharp image of the target can home on the most critical areas of the aircraft, such as the cockpit or the central area, and significantly improve the chances for a shot down.
 

Superior China

Banned Idiot
Re: Jh-7 thread

Big deal.

The V-750SM has the same guidance only isn't a2a!

Don't over estimate the israelies!

Its just a new way of doing it! It merely has a more advanced radar which sees more and so will hit the plane somewhere else, rather its strongest heat source (easist to counter.)
You can counter it, you know!
Sure they build it to counter everything at the enemies arsonal, but new things can be build!

I didn't we would switched to Lidar all of a sudden.

YOu can't lock-on on stealth.

Instead of using frequency signals you use light, it still depends on the light being reflected back to its source!
Maybe the bistatic will help, if you indeed have one instead of a Monostatic system which is prefered by sciencetists!

So were switching to LIDAR systems now?
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
Re: Jh-7 thread

adeptitus said:
Fractal Camo?
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

:rofl:

Then there's also optical camo:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


It's still quite primitive, but in the future it might be a necessity to defeat optical guided missiles that recongize targets by its shape, size, and apperance.

nice. ive seen the japanese one, but it requires a special orb projector camera to focus on the person. for camo, perhaps you could coast the plane with thousands of tiny lcd screens, and a camera. the screens would change color and outline depending on what terrain the camera saw. but nowadays, combat requires visual confirmation, so its kind of cheating.
 

sumdud

Senior Member
VIP Professional
Re: Jh-7 thread

OK......... the stealth conversation need to stop. This is about the JH-7A. If you'd like to continue, go to the anti-stealth thread.
 

Superior China

Banned Idiot
Re: Jh-7 thread

Yes, MigL, that is exactly what you do. But not thousands, just a few.

Alright, summud, I'll change the "stealth" with "RCS reduction."

That phython relies on a big RCS too, so. And don't even start saying the UAV had a small RCS.
 

sumdud

Senior Member
VIP Professional
Re: Jh-7 thread

No, this is a thread about the JH-7/A. There should be no off topic posts here. And that includes RCS!!!

And don't try to excuse yourself by morphing words. We know this well enough and we all know this forum does not allow for politics!!!

One more and you know what is to happen, so be warned!
 
Top