JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

[Deino]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

国最新歼轰八歼击战略轰炸机已脱胎换骨
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　 西安飞机第一设计院603所和沈飞正在联合发展研制最新一代的双座歼击战略轰炸机。该轰炸机航程可达7000公里。该项目2004年立项，2005年一月中央军委副主席郭伯雄亲自视察，对该型号研制方面取得的成绩充分肯定并高度评价。这种轰炸机高度机密，中国航空第一集团内部军方视察录像显示，新一代并列双座轰炸机的模型开始风洞结构试验。
军方一直对双座歼击战略轰炸机有浓厚兴趣，这种飞机集歼击轰炸和战略轰炸于一身，用于实施对海上和地面目标打击，其次是用于空中格斗，因而同时具备了歼轰7A战斗机的战术格斗性能和轰六轰炸机的远程对海上和地面目标打击能力。
歼轰八战略轰炸机设计要求为驾驶舱可容纳两名驾驶员并坐，采用两台装有矢量喷嘴和加力燃烧AL31F发动机国产型，具备战略轰炸能力。经一次空中加油的航程达到7000公里，安装有后视雷达和多功能相控阵雷达，可以携带国产先进空对空、空对地导弹。歼轰八并未采用前置鸭翼，这和苏―32截然不同，巨大的扁平机头，机身机翼菱形融合，减少雷达横截面，类似美国的F18E/F大黄蜂。装备新型国产无源相控阵雷达，可发现和同时跟踪X个空中目标，并同时引导空空导弹攻击其中Y个，具有导航／攻击、地形跟随和地形回避模式，发现驱逐舰类目标的距离为135千米，发现歼击机类目标的距离为120千米。最大航程4000 公里，经空中加油后可达7000公里。设计要求有15个外挂点，可装载8吨武器。能够携带包括各种先进导弹、激光制导炸弹，以及各种火箭和集束炸弹等。

article from top81.com.cn report that Xian is developing a follow on to JH-7.the fighter bomber will be power by two AL-31F,mid air refuel will provide the aircraft 7000km range,fitted with PESA radar,can detect destroyer size target at 135km range.
the aircraft will resemble F-18E/F

Maybe this one ????

Found in a promotional video about the JH-7A at Zhuhai ...

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=4220


Deino

 

[challenge]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

Maybe this one ????

Found in a promotional video about the JH-7A at Zhuhai ...

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=4220


Deino

the aircraft may resemble enlarge L-15.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

I remember this pic was posted a while ago.

 

[Totoro]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

Nice fan art. But who bother with all the stealthy features when the internal volume is clearly not any bigger than jh7, and seems it is in fact even a bit smaller. Any successor to jh7, if it wants to retain the capabilities of its predecessor, will have to be larger, wider fuselage, etc, to accomodate internal weapons bay. Also, if one's gonna use JH7 speed envelope, why not go with DS inlets? It seems like a perfect solution. And frankly, the disadvantages of mach 2 plus speeds make such speeds just not worth the effort...

 

[Deino]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

Nice fan art. ...

YES ... and nothing more (even if it's a nice one ! ) ... so no need to discuss if it is too small, if DSI-inlets would be better , and so on.

I know this "drawing" since 2002. It's made by an artist with the nick-name LEGO and sadly he (or she) stopped posting such projects a while ago.

Deino

 

[Semi-Lobster]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

I know this has probably been asked before but this thread is rather long and slogging through all of it would be quite the task so I hope you all bear with the most likely reptitive nature of this question but why isn't the JH-7A equipped with MRAAMs? I know, given its design, it would make a rather lacklustre fighter, but still, BVR capabilities would make it a useful missile platform and certainly would be useful against older, non-BVR aircraft such as the MiG-21 and the like. The JH-7A uses the KL-10A radar, the same as the J-10 as far as I know. Would the larger, heavier size of the PL-11 or PL-12 cause problems for the JH-7A in addition to its usual weapons layout? I remember earlier in this thread there was an image of a JH-7A wing armed with a PL-10, did this idea go anywhere? Certainly a twin engine fighter bomber like the FBC-1 with BVR would be more appealing for export than simply a small bomber with limited AA defense capabilities

 

[crobato]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

The J-10 is not equipped with the JL-10A but the Type 1473 aka KLJ-3. At least originally, newer ones might have something called KLJ-10.

JL-10A is actually spec'ed for PL-12 support, and official mock ups of the JH-7A showed it along with the PL-11.

But PL-12s and PL-11s are not in the JH-7A's mission profile, so this support is probably for just in case situations. Being mainly for strike, the JH-7As are not going to play with BVRAAMs and let others do the job.

 

[Semi-Lobster]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

The J-10 is not equipped with the JL-10A but the Type 1473 aka KLJ-3. At least originally, newer ones might have something called KLJ-10.

JL-10A is actually spec'ed for PL-12 support, and official mock ups of the JH-7A showed it along with the PL-11.

But PL-12s and PL-11s are not in the JH-7A's mission profile, so this support is probably for just in case situations. Being mainly for strike, the JH-7As are not going to play with BVRAAMs and let others do the job.

Ahh sorry about the mixup, so much J-10 info is woefully out of date. Ok, thats what I thought at least. Surely there would be support at the very least for the PL-11. I understand its not part of the mission profile of the JH-7A but for such a 'modern' fighter-bomber since it would almost always be flying with support but it would still be possible to equip them with MRAAMs. Good to know, thanks! BTW, any pictures of these JH-7A mock-ups with the PL-11 you mentioned before?

 

[crobato]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

Very old pictures, not sure if I still have them. Some of these photos were also used in the older versions of the SDF and Hui Tong's Chinese Military Aviation site, though it has been updated quite a few times since then.

Yes, its possible to have them BVRAAM'ed. But the JH-7A is more of a strike bomber than a fighter, though its handling should be in same league as the F-4 Phantom. I think its a waste or inappropriate use of the plane to make it do a fighter's job when others can do the job and are more nimble.

Possible and intended are two different things.

 

[Semi-Lobster]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

Very old pictures, not sure if I still have them. Some of these photos were also used in the older versions of the SDF and Hui Tong's Chinese Military Aviation site, though it has been updated quite a few times since then.

Yes, its possible to have them BVRAAM'ed. But the JH-7A is more of a strike bomber than a fighter, though its handling should be in same league as the F-4 Phantom. I think its a waste or inappropriate use of the plane to make it do a fighter's job when others can do the job and are more nimble.

Possible and intended are two different things.

I know it would make for a sluggish fighter but, like the J-8H/F, a BVRAAM platform is a BVRAAM platform. Its not really an issue for China who have the capability for aircraft dedicated to strike operations while having fighter aircraft to do the actually fighting, but the Xian JH-7A is one of the aircraft China's been trying to export as the FBC-1, so the incentive of at least having BVR for a country, who might not have any BVR at all would be pretty good