JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

[sumdud]

Re: Jh-7 thread

I think China would define the JH-7 as a strike plane rather than a fighter-bomber. It'll be great for the JH-7A to be able to act as a fighter, but from what China has done, that is doubtful.

But do you know the strength of the wing? How else will you know that the 2nd station out is too weak to handle BVRAAMs?

PL-5B is tail-aspect, but all PL-5C/E and PL-8 are all-aspect, but the PL-5 cannot be used with HMS, but since right now JH-7A has no HMS, Having the PL-8 is like having the PL-5....

Since the JH-7A can launch long range ASMs, I too would think the JH-7A can launch BVRAAMs, but unless we see that happen in action, we can't say anything.

Also, PL-10 is not BVR. (Sounds like people haven't realise.)

 

[tphuang]

Re: Jh-7 thread

I think China would define the JH-7 as a strike plane rather than a fighter-bomber. It'll be great for the JH-7A to be able to act as a fighter, but from what China has done, that is doubtful.

But do you know the strength of the wing? How else will you know that the 2nd station out is too weak to handle BVRAAMs?

PL-5B is tail-aspect, but all PL-5C/E and PL-8 are all-aspect, but the PL-5 cannot be used with HMS, but since right now JH-7A has no HMS, Having the PL-8 is like having the PL-5....

Since the JH-7A can launch long range ASMs, I too would think the JH-7A can launch BVRAAMs, but unless we see that happen in action, we can't say anything.

Also, PL-10 is not BVR. (Sounds like people haven't realise.)

I wouldn't say that. The seeker for PL-8B is far superior to PL-5 and it also has OBV and a all new digital processor. But of course, PL-5 is cheaper than PL-8B.

 

[planeman]

Re: Jh-7 thread

PL-10 is BVR, it's just naff that's all.

I think the pic with LGBs is fake now I've seen the similar CGI with different weapons. That would explain the PL-5/8 issue.

I suspect that the JH-7 fleet is only routinely equiped with PL-5B AAMs for self defence because they are less draggy (less impact on performance, particularly on wingtip position), cheaper and only intended for self-defense. Training the flight crew to employ BVR weapons and/or HMS would be expensive, timre consuming and a distraction from their primary mission.

 

[crobato]

Re: Jh-7 thread

PL-5Bs would have expired by now, and yes old missles have a limited shelf life even in storage. I don't see them using PL-5Bs anymore and PL-5Es are mostly an export item, though I am not sure if they are delivered to the PLAAF at all. I have never seen a PL-5B in any recent picture with a PLAAF plane.

As the JH-7s are upgraded to the second block configuration, and all the new production would be JH-7A, they would surely use the PL-8s as the most convenient missile in stock around.

Training the flight crew for BVR and equipping the plane with HMS might be additional costs, as planeman mentioned, with only minimal benefit. The JH-7s might have greater survivability just to turn around and run away, rather than stick around to fight.

 

[sumdud]

Re: Jh-7 thread

Well, PL-10 flies around 18km, not exactly BVR range yet.........
PL-8B? I haven't heard about that missile, got a page?

 

[crobato]

Re: Jh-7 thread

This is the term people used for improved PL-8 corresponding to the PL-9C, which is official designation.

Planeman, while searching around Xian using google earth, I found giant pyramids not far from the city. I believe these to be the tombs of kings, nobility and emperors of earlier dynasties. I'm trying to look for more pyramids.

 

[Deino]

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Planeman, while searching around Xian using google earth, I found giant pyramids not far from the city. I believe these to be the tombs of kings, nobility and emperors of earlier dynasties. I'm trying to look for more pyramids.

Hey ... I know it's off-topic, but can You please give the coordinates !! I was searching this aerea too for the Xian factory but so far without any success.

Cheers, Deino

 

[Gollevainen]

Re: Jh-7 thread

king's 'n pyramids

As interesting it may sound, it's offtopic as Deino mentioned it...so Crobato, post the co-ordinates and lets move on...further discussion over this pyramid thing should be done in member's club room

 

[big toothbrush]

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[MIGleader]

Re: Jh-7 thread

Wow...that is defintely the clearest, most detailed picture of the jh-7A cockpit weve seen so far. Nice work.

Lets see...two color MFDs(maybe a thid one under the one on the far side), HUD, no HMS(so it is solely ground attack). Not exactly cuttung edge, but not bad.