JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
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Of cos, I believe J-11B is wired to have this capabilites but just like KLJ-7 radar of FC-1. It still need to be reprogram, test out before able to fire YJ-83 missiles..
I think PLAAF top brass do not see the urgent need of J-11B immediately added this capabilites. Probably JH-7A which is an upgrade of old JH-7 improve so much that it satisfy the need of PLAAF and PLAN.
Semi-Lobster
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New photos ...
I wonder how many hours of flight time 06 has gotten now since it first flew?
asif iqbal
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Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
this picture shows a Chinese aircraft not a Pakistani aircraft, JFT PT 06 i think, possibly under testing, Pakistan has the C802A anti-ship missile not the C803, there is no evidence that Pakistan has got C803, we ordered 50 C802A in 2008 and as of 2010 we had 10 delivered
Pakistan has always maintained that its anti-ship missiles from JFT is going to be C802A and not C803, why this blog mentioned C803 is un-clear, could be a mistake, or maybe in future China planned to use air launched C803 but current JFT in PAF are not able to use air launched C803, maybe later versions will use them
this picture shows a Chinese aircraft not a Pakistani aircraft, JFT PT 06 i think, possibly under testing, Pakistan has the C802A anti-ship missile not the C803, there is no evidence that Pakistan has got C803, we ordered 50 C802A in 2008 and as of 2010 we had 10 delivered
Pakistan has always maintained that its anti-ship missiles from JFT is going to be C802A and not C803, why this blog mentioned C803 is un-clear, could be a mistake, or maybe in future China planned to use air launched C803 but current JFT in PAF are not able to use air launched C803, maybe later versions will use them
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plawolf
Lieutenant General
Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
That is not a Chinese JF17 as it is in the PAF camo scheme, Chinese JF17s have black radomes and red Chinese lettering on the left cheek.
In fact, those are the PAF JF17s when they visitor Farnborough air show in 2010.
Notice the same airliner in the background.
Regarding the C802, it is a little unusual that only 10 out of 50 had been delivered after two years. Any reason for that?
Since the remaining 40 are undelivered, it is not outside the realm of possibility that the contract might be re-negotiated so that the remaining missiles are upgraded to C803s for an additional fee since both missiles are made by the same company, and even if some of the remaining 40 missiles of the original order have started manufacturing, the PLA orders enough C802s that they could be easily absorbed in the next order.
I'm not saying that the PAF JF17s will use C803s, just that it is certainly a possibility.
That is not a Chinese JF17 as it is in the PAF camo scheme, Chinese JF17s have black radomes and red Chinese lettering on the left cheek.
In fact, those are the PAF JF17s when they visitor Farnborough air show in 2010.
Notice the same airliner in the background.
Regarding the C802, it is a little unusual that only 10 out of 50 had been delivered after two years. Any reason for that?
Since the remaining 40 are undelivered, it is not outside the realm of possibility that the contract might be re-negotiated so that the remaining missiles are upgraded to C803s for an additional fee since both missiles are made by the same company, and even if some of the remaining 40 missiles of the original order have started manufacturing, the PLA orders enough C802s that they could be easily absorbed in the next order.
I'm not saying that the PAF JF17s will use C803s, just that it is certainly a possibility.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Great photos as usual Deino! Great work!
However, this two JF17 threads thing is confusing the hell out of me, can one of the mods please merge them or at least lock one of them so all the info on the JF17 is in one place?
It can get pretty annoying when you spend ages looking for something only to realize it was posted in the other thread.
However, this two JF17 threads thing is confusing the hell out of me, can one of the mods please merge them or at least lock one of them so all the info on the JF17 is in one place?
It can get pretty annoying when you spend ages looking for something only to realize it was posted in the other thread.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
Ok things might be overlapping here, yes the pics I posted are from Farnborough airshow with C802 and the original one I said was Chinese JF17
regarding C802, Pakistan took delivery of the following
20 C802 ordered in 2003 all delivered in 2006 for Jalalat FAC
70 C802 ordered in 2005 all delivered 2009-2010 for F22P
50 C802 ordered in 2008 10 delivered 2010 for JF17
30 C802 ordered in 2010 awaiting delivery for Type 002 FAC awaiting designation
and just for fun
(70) R-440 Crotale SAM (2005) 2009-2010 (50) For Jiangwei (F-22P) frigates; HQ-7 (FM-80) version
(200) PL-12/SD-10 BVRAAM (2006) 2010 (25) For JF-17 and possibly modernized Mirage-3/5
combat aircraft
(300) PL-5E SRAAM (2006) 2009-2010 (110) For JF-17 combat aircraft; PL-5E-II version
(600) LS-6 Guided bomb (2008) 2010 (100) For JF-17 combat aircraft
Source:- Sipri arms trade register #
it could well be that Pakistan is testing JF17 with C802 and China is testing with C803, batch 1 uses C802 and batch 2 could possibly use C803
Ok things might be overlapping here, yes the pics I posted are from Farnborough airshow with C802 and the original one I said was Chinese JF17
regarding C802, Pakistan took delivery of the following
20 C802 ordered in 2003 all delivered in 2006 for Jalalat FAC
70 C802 ordered in 2005 all delivered 2009-2010 for F22P
50 C802 ordered in 2008 10 delivered 2010 for JF17
30 C802 ordered in 2010 awaiting delivery for Type 002 FAC awaiting designation
and just for fun
(70) R-440 Crotale SAM (2005) 2009-2010 (50) For Jiangwei (F-22P) frigates; HQ-7 (FM-80) version
(200) PL-12/SD-10 BVRAAM (2006) 2010 (25) For JF-17 and possibly modernized Mirage-3/5
combat aircraft
(300) PL-5E SRAAM (2006) 2009-2010 (110) For JF-17 combat aircraft; PL-5E-II version
(600) LS-6 Guided bomb (2008) 2010 (100) For JF-17 combat aircraft
Source:- Sipri arms trade register #
it could well be that Pakistan is testing JF17 with C802 and China is testing with C803, batch 1 uses C802 and batch 2 could possibly use C803
Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
As far as I am informed the C802 testing has been done. They probably moved to C803 for upgrade. Why else would we see the first time two of these on one FC1? It adds considerable more range and speed. This way the JF17 can become much more interesting for internal and external customers.
Wiki:
Due to the supersonic speed of the terminal stage, it is nearly impossible for the missile to fly in the terrain following mode, and thus the new missile has not yet had the land attack capability against inland targets like its predecessor C-802, instead, it only has limited land attack capability against coastal targets. Despite its improvement, however, the future of YJ-83 (C-803) was uncertain, because a more advanced missile designed as YJ-12 was already being developed by China Haiying Electromechanical Technology Academy (中国海鹰机电技术研究院), and the chief designer of the new missile was none other than Mr. Huang Ruisong (黄锐松), the chief designer of YJ-83 (C-803). It is unlikely that YJ-83 (C-803) would enter service in large numbers due to the availability of more advanced missile already developed. Pakistan Navy operates these missiles in its Khalid class Agosta 90B submarines.
As far as I am informed the C802 testing has been done. They probably moved to C803 for upgrade. Why else would we see the first time two of these on one FC1? It adds considerable more range and speed. This way the JF17 can become much more interesting for internal and external customers.
Wiki:
Due to the supersonic speed of the terminal stage, it is nearly impossible for the missile to fly in the terrain following mode, and thus the new missile has not yet had the land attack capability against inland targets like its predecessor C-802, instead, it only has limited land attack capability against coastal targets. Despite its improvement, however, the future of YJ-83 (C-803) was uncertain, because a more advanced missile designed as YJ-12 was already being developed by China Haiying Electromechanical Technology Academy (中国海鹰机电技术研究院), and the chief designer of the new missile was none other than Mr. Huang Ruisong (黄锐松), the chief designer of YJ-83 (C-803). It is unlikely that YJ-83 (C-803) would enter service in large numbers due to the availability of more advanced missile already developed. Pakistan Navy operates these missiles in its Khalid class Agosta 90B submarines.