JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

Abominable

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US will not sell anything more offense oriented than AIM-7 to Argentina, let alone anti ship missiles.
I was talking about the JF-17 deal, they mentioned A2A missiles but not anything anti ship (which would be the main threat).

I don't know if 12 is enough though. Double that to 24 and I'm not sure what the British can do to hold on to the Falklands.
 

siegecrossbow

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I was talking about the JF-17 deal, they mentioned A2A missiles but not anything anti ship (which would be the main threat).

I don't know if 12 is enough though. Double that to 24 and I'm not sure what the British can do to hold on to the Falklands.

I don’t think Thunders could do much against top of the line British fighter aircraft carrier either way. The important thing for Argentina is to rebuild capabilities at low cost.
 

Abominable

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I don’t think Thunders could do much against top of the line British fighter aircraft carrier either way. The important thing for Argentina is to rebuild capabilities at low cost.
I don't want to take the thread off topic but I don't think it's an impossible task.
 

phrozenflame

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That's 2x the price and another weight class of fighter compared to JF-17 and Tejas.

Tejas is already about 2x the price of a block 2 JF-17. A block 3 JF-17 would be head and shoulders better than a Mk1 Tejas (which is the only one that is actually in service and available with Mk.1A only planned for service in 2023 and onwards so comparable to JF-17 B3 in modernity if nothing else).

A modern brand new F-16V is over three times the cost of a JF-17. You can basically buy, train up, and arm two JF-17 block 3 for the price of just one F-16V with no weapons and an untrained pilot. I very much doubt 10 export version, AIM-120C armed F-16V is superior to 25 or so JF-17 block 3 with PL-15E and PL-10E.
A single Jf-17 Block 3 with Pl-15e will outgun F-16 with aim-120c.
 

Mohsin77

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Double that to 24 and I'm not sure what the British can do to hold on to the Falklands.

The British have an airbase on the island. It can support Eurofighters, and if they sense Argentina is gearing up, 5th gen infrastructure would be built.

Mount Pleasant Airport - Donald Morrison.jpg


Argentina would need to disable this AFB, the coastal and C4I nodes, mount a successful landing, secure the island before the CSGs arrive, and then they'll need to keep those CSGs far enough away using Naval or Missile threats, or sink the carriers if they get within strike radius.

I don't want to take the thread off topic but I don't think it's an impossible task.

Such an offensive action is not "impossible" for a very operationally competent force with the required tools. Is the Argentinian military such a force, at present? I don't know much about their military, but I'd be surprised if it was. Either way, becoming such a force requires a lot more than a squadron or two of JF-17s.
 

berkut

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Buenos días, soy de Argentina, leo el foro y estoy registrado desde hace mucho, pero prefiero leerlos antes que participar ya que los temas tratados superan en gran medida lo que pueda aportar..

por favor, tomar con mucho cuidado todo lo referido al JF-17 para Argentina.
El actual gobierno (así como todos los anteriores en realidad) tienen un nulo interés por la defensa nacional y la mayoría de los dichos sobre re equipamientos son falsos y sin ningún resultado tangible.

el JF-17 no escapa a esta realidad, y no es por algún problema con el avión en sí sino por el arraigado sentimiento de la Fuerza Aérea Argentina con el material de origen occidental.

el Jf-17, para muchos acá en Argentina, es la única opción viable para equipar a la Fuerza Aérea Argentina con un avión caza de primera línea que no se vea afectado por el embargo de Gran Bretaña.

disculpen por no manejar el idioma... a continuación una traducción de estas mismas palabras al inglés vía Google.

Good morning, I am from Argentina, I read the forum and I have been registered for a long time, but I prefer to read them before participating since the topics greatly exceed what I can contribute.



please, take very carefully everything related to the JF-17 for Argentina.

The current government (as well as all the previous ones actually) have zero interest in national defense and most of the talk about re-equipment is false and without any tangible results.



the JF-17 does not escape this reality, and it is not because of any problem with the plane itself, but because of the deep-rooted feeling of the Argentine Air Force with the material of Western origin.



The Jf-17, for many here in Argentina, is the only viable option to equip the Argentine Air Force with a top-of-the-line fighter aircraft that is not affected by the British embargo.



sorry for not handling the language... here is a translation of these same words into English via Google.
 
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