JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

Deino

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Thanks ... but do You know which squadron will be the next ?

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The China-Defence blog reported that this was the latest YJ-83K/C-803, rather than the older sub-sonic YJ-82/C-802.
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what?
There is no such thing as C-803. C-802A is the latest export AShM of this series. YJ-82 is a submarine launch missile.

You can think of YJ-83 series and C-802 series as the same thing basically.
KD-88 is equivalent to CM-802AKG
Although, C-802 series actually came out before YJ-83. However, the latest C-802A missile is probably as close to YJ-83 as you can get. I'm not sure about this supersonic terminal phase for YJ-83 at all. It's basically the same missile as C-802A and it would need more fuel to have a supersonic terminal phase.

Of cos, I believe J-11B is wired to have this capabilites but just like KLJ-7 radar of FC-1. It still need to be reprogram, test out before able to fire YJ-83 missiles..

I think PLAAF top brass do not see the urgent need of J-11B immediately added this capabilites. Probably JH-7A which is an upgrade of old JH-7 improve so much that it satisfy the need of PLAAF and PLAN.
J-11BH probably will.

J-11B needs to be able to fire all of the land attack munitions.
 

Deino

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FC-1 + different YJ-83K or KD-88 ??

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Looks like that's a real test round, before they were dummies?
 

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Yes, the first pair were just dummies for aerodynamic and flight profile testing to verify that the plane can fly with the missile. This looks more like a different dummy for separation testing. They will only move onto live rounds after they have done a few dry runs with dummies to make sure the missile can separate as expected after release.

It could be a live round, but I doubt it since we have seen pictures of 06 landing with the two blue dummies, so they have not done a separation test afaik, which would make going straight to a live round a bit risky if not reckless.

Besides, there would be little reason to also carry an inert dummy for a live test. My guess is they are killing two birds with one stone with this test.

Stage 1 is the separation testing, and stage 2 is flight testing the plane with a single missile in an uneven load configuration.

After this test, if all goes as planned, they can move onto live firings, but I would expect them to only be going up with a single live missile for the first few launches.

It is also interesting that the JF17 flight test programme is progressing without delay despite the tragic crash in Pakistan.

It would not have been uncommon for all planes to be grounded until after an investigation has established the cause of the crash and have all remaining planes checked for similar problems if there was some sort of mechanical problem that caused the crash.

That makes me think either the PAF has a pretty good idea of what caused it (there were rumors that the crashed plane lost power some time before it crashed, and the pilot stayed with the bird trying to glide it back to base), or they are on a very tight schedule and decided to take the risk.

BTW, has anyone heard if the PAF JF17 fleet has been grounded or not pending the conclusion of the crash investigation? Or are they flying as normal?
 

asif iqbal

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the fleet of JF17 has not been grounded as of yet, they are just carrying on as usual and just making regular/standard checks, the investigation is on going

although personally i think they should have to safe guard the lives of the pilots, under these circumstances they just ground everything for the sake of it, anyhow lets wait and see what the investigation says hopefully it was a issue that will not effect any other aircraft
 

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FC-1 + different YJ-83K or KD-88 ??

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looks more like YJ-83K just judging by the seeker and the fins. The seeker looks to be an active radar seeker.
 
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Qasim57

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@plawolf We heard from the news coming out of Dubai, that the JF-17s there were cleared to fly after a preliminary investigation of the crash. The aircraft seem to be flying, and aren't grounded.
 
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