I believe so yes. I know the North Korean Navy has similar craft.
Japanese sinks stealth boat in whale wars!
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I believe so yes. I know the North Korean Navy has similar craft.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Based on the photographs I saw, they clearly indicate that the Andy Gill is on the starboard bow of the Shonan Maru, which,under rule 19 of the Inernational Rules for the prevention of collision at sea, makes the Shonan Maru the "give way" vessel.
But the photographs also indicate that the Ady Gill is blatantly ignoring rule 21 which states
" When from any cause the stand on vessel finds herself so close that a collison cannot be avoided by the action of the give way vessel alone, she shall take such action as will best avert a collision.
I wonder if the Ady Gill's skipper can provide us with any evidence of doing so. If not, then putting the lives of himself and his crew at risk does nothing to help the anti whaling movement.
Having said that IMO the Japanese are more than welcome to hunt for Whales in their own waters, not ours. However I dont buy into their contention that they are exercising a traditional right of catching whales for consumption. Well not in the way of the Indigenous people of the icelandic regions oe alaska/canada.
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bladerunner
Banned Idiot
I side with japans right to hunt whales in their own waters simply because Ive got a very very nice japanese bank manageress
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Thats incorrect It was not designed with anti whale protesting in mind in fact it was the former "earth race vessel" promoting the use of bio diesel and traveling around the world in the fastest time ( I think)before being acquired by the anti whaling protestors
Errr...... what do you suggest?
That's what idiots do, cry and expect something to happen repeating the same old Bush-It.
Seriously, what's yelling going to do?
When they told us that they were Minke whales and not something close to extinction, I practically wanted to switch sides. (Ask Andrew Zimmern.)
Well, with harpooning, every whale caught is caught; half of the Inuits' catch fall to the bottom of the sea.
And AFAIK, the Japanese say that they are whaling for research, not consumption, so if the hippies want to do something, just go to Japan, photograph the whale products, and interrogate.
Greenpeace? Sorry, but they are the same thing to me, and too darn idealistic/unrealistic.
PS. If they successfully hamper the whalers, the whalers will thank them for allowing themselves to jack up the price of whale meat. (Apparently, they've have had tourists be shown whale meat at a very cheap price. The tourists who bought it couldn't figure out what kind of fish it was however.)
Who cares what the anti-Whalers do? If they disrupt commerce, so what? It's a battlefield out there, and the Japanese whalers won this round. Plain and simple.
Unrestricted and unregulated commerce is not optimal either. Imagine every water bottling company got its way? They'd suck every lake and underground water aquifier dry. Oh well, it's ok, right?
Also, who cares if private nuclear companies just dump their waste on people's backyard. We shouldn't restrict capitalism and commerce, right?
I have no problem with whaling just as long as there are enough whales to replenish the ones that are killed. Unfortunately, "farming" whales, to my knowledge, hasn't been done before. Let's assume that all the whales on the earth are dead due to Japanese whaling. You do know that these whalers will move on to dolphins and sharks, and then other fish close to America's maritime borders. Where does it stop? It doesn't. That's the problem.
Unrestricted and unregulated commerce is not optimal either. Imagine every water bottling company got its way? They'd suck every lake and underground water aquifier dry. Oh well, it's ok, right?
Also, who cares if private nuclear companies just dump their waste on people's backyard. We shouldn't restrict capitalism and commerce, right?
I have no problem with whaling just as long as there are enough whales to replenish the ones that are killed. Unfortunately, "farming" whales, to my knowledge, hasn't been done before. Let's assume that all the whales on the earth are dead due to Japanese whaling. You do know that these whalers will move on to dolphins and sharks, and then other fish close to America's maritime borders. Where does it stop? It doesn't. That's the problem.
Semi-Lobster
Junior Member
These sort of high profile 'stunts' by anti-whaling activist, no matter how admirable on paper their goal is, only hurts their cause in Japan than helps. Sure it makes for good coverage in the rest of the world but in Japan it just makes them angrier about the issue and more resolute not to bend over for 'outsiders'. If they just engaged the Japanese public more clearly then slowly, overtime, they could get attitudes to change, but given how much 'buzz' these whale standoffs make, I doubt they have their priorities straight.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
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My apologies, but I assumed most people would have been aware of the anti whalers claim that whale meat was not part of the traditional Japanese diet. They only turned to it because of a food shortage, and since that problem no longer exists, they can now stop the consumption of whale meat.
Quickie
Colonel
Sorry, someone seems to suggest that whales are a kind of fish.
Are the Japanese dog lovers? Perhaps telling them that whales are as intelligent as or even more intelligent than dogs would help them break the habit of eating whale meats.
Are the Japanese dog lovers? Perhaps telling them that whales are as intelligent as or even more intelligent than dogs would help them break the habit of eating whale meats.
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