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Bltizo said:

Similarly, I expect KFX, TFX, AMCA, and F-3 if it gets built, to end up as more "late 5th generation fighters" or perhaps "5+" generation fighters.

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Don't know about TFX or AMCA but the KFX is already backing out of the fifth generation game. According to the Korean developers, they'll be reducing the technological difficulty by forgoing the weaponsbay and carrying the load externally. When the news broke, Indonesia stated that they will back out of the project and there is speculation that the Indonesians may collaborate with the SAC on the FC-31 instead.

Also, there are rumors on Chines forums regarding how South Koreans tried to steal FC-31 related technology through Chinese channels in Shenyang. Pretty funny considering the design similarities between the FC-31 and the revised KF-X model with conventional configuration.

FORBIN said:

So now F-3 cancelled sure ?

And in this case for very soon new F-35A orders make sense the need is for how many 100 others ?

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Cancelled?
Who mentioned anything about being cancelled?

NO it is not cancelled they are only making the final considerations of what goes in and what is not.

As for F-35As probably around 60. The original 40 that had already been ordered and another twenty for multi role purposes. The other 50 or so may be replaced with UCAVs for swarm combat, the basis of 6th generation fighters.

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Jura said:

it's going to be a huge show of force due to the three carriers plus Japan joins US Navy in Pacific exercise

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and it's cool looking:

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JS Ise participating in US Navy three carrier exercise

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JS Ise participating in US Navy three carrier exercise

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now found these in Twitter:

taxiya said:

F-35 is essentially a curse of ATD-X/F3. Japan does not have unlimited cash to have both in meaningful numbers, let alone the gap of waiting for the uncertain F3. If Japan choose to field F-35 in good numbers to counter J-20 in the near future, I don't know where they can find the money to develop and build enough F3.

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Guys, fighters aren't bring built fo just counter each other, if it isn't a direct arms race where different kinds of tech matter little.
Modern fighter is no dreadnought, and Japan isn't trying to outcompete China directly.

J-20 probably isn't even the main reason, requiring to field separate a2a platform.
Dubious performance of F-35 as an interceptor, on the other hand, is.
And it's traditional role for JASDF, the one they're expected to perform the most.

F35s mission set is a multimission type interceptor Strike platform. F3 is likely aimed to be a purer air to air platform.

Gloire_bb said:

Guys, fighters aren't bring built fo just counter each other, if it isn't a direct arms race where different kinds of tech matter little.
Modern fighter is no dreadnought, and Japan isn't trying to outcompete China directly.

J-20 probably isn't even the main reason, requiring to field separate a2a platform.
Dubious performance of F-35 as an interceptor, on the other hand, is.
And it's traditional role for JASDF, the one they're expected to perform the most.

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Exact ! but some ( always the same in general ) too excited agressive it is obvious... as here
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinas-scs-strategy-thread.t3118/page-489
Look the garbage !
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinas-scs-strategy-thread.t3118/page-489#post-480902
and the content LOL
And in general they are not even their weapons they want send vs others countries Haha

Gloire_bb said:

Guys, fighters aren't bring built fo just counter each other, if it isn't a direct arms race where different kinds of tech matter little.
Modern fighter is no dreadnought, and Japan isn't trying to outcompete China directly.

J-20 probably isn't even the main reason, requiring to field separate a2a platform.
Dubious performance of F-35 as an interceptor, on the other hand, is.
And it's traditional role for JASDF, the one they're expected to perform the most.

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Isn't the Silent Eagle from Boeing a good interim option for the role? Japan has extensive experience operating the F-15 and it isn't like China is going to field an all-Fifth generation fleet any time soon. The Silent Eagle probably has an advantage even against 4++ fighters like the J-16 and J-10C.

siegecrossbow said:

Isn't the Silent Eagle from Boeing a good interim option for the role? Japan has extensive experience operating the F-15 and it isn't like China is going to field an all-Fifth generation fleet any time soon. The Silent Eagle probably has an advantage even against 4++ fighters like the J-16 and J-10C.

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Theoretically maybe. but Silent Eagle... is as dead a Thanksgiving Turkey. No one bought in. It seemed like a cool idea but with no one willing to lay out the $$ it went bust. Parts of it still exist as options and will feed into F15SA, F15QA and upgrades for the existing Eagles in the form of the F-15 Advanced Eagle, but Every one who looked at F15SE and F35 all chose F35, Or a more conventional F15 upgrade.
Japan and South Korea two countries who would seemingly argue what color the sky is both made the same choice and asked for F35As.
The Japanese Existing F15 fleet is based on the F15J and F-15J Kai they will likely be kept in service for sometime with system updates like what Boeing has offered the USAF in the F15 2040C concept, IRST, data link compatible with fifth gens, increased missile load, conformal fuel tanks upgraded radar improved self defence systems. For both the JASDF and USAF hope to be phasing the types out about the same time period in the 2040's.