Japan Earthquake

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If the leaders are competent, there's no need for elections. If the leaders are incompetent, hundred of elections are not going to make any difference.
 

bladerunner

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And look what the Japanese dug up now:

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In Germany, saying the same thing would have gotten him arrested. Or at least publicly lynched. This is the kind of people Japan looks for in leaders?

Did the population have a problem with what he said?
Or he lacks the political smarts because he does'nt know when to keep his mouth shut
 

Schumacher

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Did the population have a problem with what he said?
Or he lacks the political smarts because he does'nt know when to keep his mouth shut

The guy is not totally dumb, he must have known there's a sizable section of the population supporting his views, otherwise he wouldn't have said it. Japan does call itself a 'democracy' after all.
I think many foreigners, especially Japan fanboys, are deluding themselves and seek comfort by thinking only a few of Japanese extremist elements lack remorse for their militaristic past. The scary truth is I think such sentiments are quite widespread in the wider population.
 
The guy is not totally dumb, he must have known there's a sizable section of the population supporting his views, otherwise he wouldn't have said it. Japan does call itself a 'democracy' after all.
I think many foreigners, especially Japan fanboys, are deluding themselves and seek comfort by thinking only a few of Japanese extremist elements lack remorse for their militaristic past. The scary truth is I think such sentiments are quite widespread in the wider population.

Actually that's the opposite. The public is very disapproval of their past, and it's a smaller number who aren't remorseful about it. However because this small group is very extremist, vocal, even powerful, and has a lot of attention from the outside, therefore they give the people a very bad name.
 

Schumacher

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Actually that's the opposite. The public is very disapproval of their past, and it's a smaller number who aren't remorseful about it. However because this small group is very extremist, vocal, even powerful, and has a lot of attention from the outside, therefore they give the people a very bad name.

Let's hope you're right and the Japanese public who "is very disapproval of their past" will force this guy to retract the statement and apologize, and show the world exactly how much they "disapprove their past".
 
It seems to be worse in Japan, but, for example, the trouble with finance shows that its is a major problem in many Western countries.
China acknowledges that corruption is a problem, which is the first step to doing something about it.

My Japanese prof actually called Japanese government system, pork-barreled, and she's Japanese herself. She mentioned how tightly affiliated the Japanese government is with the bureaucrats, cabinets, and businesses, which was deemed as the famous Iron Triangle. Another thing was that they passed their gameplay down to their next generation, therefore it's almost always the same people with the same mentality running the same group in almost the same "culture", same tradition, same manner. With that said, they are too tightly bonded to each other, there's no true methods which encourage breaking out of the pattern, therefore they are almost always stuck in the same mindset. Unless you want to be outted, you gotta join the game, and that's the only way you can ever go up.
 
Let's hope you're right and the Japanese public who "is very disapproval of their past" will force this guy to retract the statement and apologize, and show the world exactly how much they "disapprove their past".

I hope so. I don't actually hate nor think the Japanese public are bad people(actually a lotta times they set such a great example, I am more than impressed; they even made me wonder why my own kind can't learn from them, and instead only know how to whine about their past everyday while without making true progress of our own)<--(i can go on with this for a while, and i'd even thing mryuum will agree), but i can't speak the same about their government. I actually consider their government as a prime example of incompetence. It can't do the right thing, decide the right thing, nor know how to get to its goals.
 

Red___Sword

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The guy is not totally dumb, he must have known there's a sizable section of the population supporting his views, otherwise he wouldn't have said it. Japan does call itself a 'democracy' after all.
I think many foreigners, especially Japan fanboys, are deluding themselves and seek comfort by thinking only a few of Japanese extremist elements lack remorse for their militaristic past. The scary truth is I think such sentiments are quite widespread in the wider population.

You bet, the majority population, put in good terms - they don't care these political or historical (not to mention "political plus historical") stuff; put in bad terms - they care, they care in the way that worries the rest of the world - like "how did Japan defeated in WWII, what's wrong?" - and that's "another round of war-game simulation", not the supposed "war crime self-reflection".

Not at all the new PM's statement surprises me, they never consider anyone a war-criminal at first place, throughout the whole post-WWII history, at all.

Anyway, regarding moderm Japan, more pressing matter is the containment of the radiation, this kills more swiftly, compare to "the rising of militarism", after all.
 

Schumacher

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It's far from over folks. Since Japan usually reports the bare minimum of bad news, you can bet this is just the tip of the iceberg.

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Fukushima finds cesium in Nihonmatsu rice, to hold more tests before shipment decision

The Fukushima Prefectural Government said on Sept. 23 that it had detected 500 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram -- the government-set allowable limit -- in a sample of "Hitomebore" rice collected in Nihonmatsu's Obama district. It will greatly increase the number of testing locations there for a second test to decide whether to allow shipments of rice from the city.

After discovering radioactive cesium in the rice crop from the city, Nihonmatsu became the first area to be designated a "priority test area," which means the local government will increase the number of locations in the city where rice crops are tested for radioactive substances before deciding whether to allow shipments.

Early-season rice from across Fukushima Prefecture was already previously approved for shipments, and some municipalities have started shipping their regular season rice. The test results from Nihonmatsu have again stirred worries among farmers and others about effects on Fukushima products' reputation.
 

Schumacher

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Someone forgot to tell Mr Nuclear Radiation that the world wants to concentrate on 'far more important' news like the debt crisis and that Japan is desperate to declare everything is fine and safe.

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Nuclear contamination found beyond Japan no-go zone

(AFP) – 1 day ago

TOKYO — High levels of radioactive contamination have been found in soil in the capital of Japan's Fukushima prefecture, a study showed Wednesday, prompting calls to make the area a voluntary evacuation zone.

Some 307,000 becquerels of caesium per kilogramme (2.2 pounds) of soil was detected in an independent survey conducted on September 14 by a radiological engineering expert and citizens' groups.

The Japanese government's legal limit is 10,000 becquerels per kilogramme.

The contamination is believed to have been caused by radiation that has leaked from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, which was crippled by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

The development comes days after Japan lifted evacuation advisories for five areas between 20-30 kilometres from the nuclear plant and as it looks to convince tens of thousands of people that it is safe to return home.

The groups tested soil samples from several areas near central Fukushima some 60 kilometres (35 miles) away from the plant.

"We are urging the central and local governments to have children and expecting mothers evacuated from the areas," said Takeshi Sakagami, a member of Citizens Against Fukushima Aging Nuclear Power Plants.

Sakagami said his group was calling on authorities to at least designate the area as a non-mandatory evacuation zone due to the level of contamination.

A 9.0-magnitude quake on March 11 triggered a monster tsunami that left 20,000 dead or missing and crippled cooling systems at the Fukushima plant, northeast of Tokyo, causing reactor meltdowns.

Radiation leaks forced the evacuation of tens of thousands of people from a 20-kilometre radius around the troubled plant, and in some pockets beyond.

On Friday the government said it would lift five "evacuation preparation" zones between 20 and 30 kilometres from the plant, where residents were not forced to evacuate but were told to be ready to do so in the event of further setbacks at the crippled plant.

Public confidence in the safety of Japan's nuclear plants has plummeted in the wake of the disaster, with only 10 of the nation's 54 reactors currently online.

Reactors will be required to undergo stress-testing and need the approval of local authorities before restarting.

On Tuesday a nuclear reactor in southwestern Japan was automatically shut down due to a problem with its cooling system, but operator Kyushu Electric said no abnormalities had been detected.
 
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