Japan becoming a chinese province

IMO Japan will never become a province of China- maybe a modern equivalent of a tributary state, but not like Manjuria or even NK in the future.
The Japanese mentality and past history won't allow it- they would rather commit seppuku than kowtow to Beijing!

BLUEJACKET said:

The Japanese mentality and past history won't allow it- they would rather commit seppuku than kowtow to Beijing!

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Or they might just tell the Chinese to get lost very politely. After all, even if China's economy continues to grow at it's current pace, Japan would still be the third largest economy in the world even after being overtaken.

P.S. I know you were joking.

FuManChu said:

Or they might just tell the Chinese to get lost very politely. After all, even if China's economy continues to grow at it's current pace, Japan would still be the third largest economy in the world even after being overtaken.

P.S. I know you were joking.

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Well, we are all going off topic here. It is impossible for japan to become one of china's province. Japan had never been one of them. I don't know how that guy will have such imagination. All his thoughts and speeches only create hatre and threat between two nations.
PS: Japan was not a peaceful nation at all. Let's count it only invaded China once, but it invaded Korean for more than 2 times. What about the occupation of TW before WWII, and also the northern Provinces in China a few years before WWII? You can court that as one invasion, because their time line is pretty close. And what about japanese invasion of philipine, vietnam, cambodia, Malaysia, Indonesia?
Just consider that Japan is a lsland nation with very limited resource, It has to expanse its territory in order to gain more natural resource. War is only way in the past. Invasion will be the only solution for japan to survive in the past, there is no reason for japan to be a peaceful nation.
In current situation, Japan is rich and strong in military also. I know Japan eager to regain its military power and normalize itself. However, not China, but US doesn't want to see that happen. Because USA needs Japan to be its frontier outpost. USA wants Japan to remain under it's umbrella of influence.

FuManChu said:

August was talking about invasions, not piracy. There is a rather important difference.

In addition, given Japan was in a state of civil war for a lot of the 16th century, and there was no strong, central administration able to manage privateers, it's pretty daft to compare it to an invasion. It would be like saying Somalia is robbing the seas off East Africa because that's where so many of the pirates come from.



Isn't that rather the point? While all the other major powers were concerned about fighting each other (and spending large amounts of GDP on their militaries), Japan was quite happy to spend a modest sum on self-defence and no more.

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The typical western centric view from Dr. Fu...

Here is a point I think can never be stressed enough. In the far east, the link between historical and cultural identities and governance is much, much stronger than in the west. Something like this would be very hard for a Brit to understand. Afterall, there is hardly any mention of the once glorious Empire. In the far east, amongst the people, there is a perceived, and indeed, real continuity from historical events and current ambitions, and that is because the long line of governing ideaologies are never really broken.