J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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Martian

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Video of J-20 Mighty Dragon take-off!

[video]http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjcxNDgyMzY4.html[/video]

The trees were in the way, but the launch time was 15 or 16 seconds (according to my stopwatch).

[Note: Thank you to Lawxx for the video link.]
 
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johnqh

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Deino said:
Here a nice summary at the CDF made by "pierrotlefou"



Actually I have that strange feeling that there's something "fishy" ... .

As such I would say it sounds too good (performance wise) to be true and as far as I know the WS-15 is an indigenous design - maybe with Russian assistance as some sources suggest - but not based on a Russian design.

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I agree.

There are other holes in the story. J-10 doesn't even have WS-10 installed yet. It makes no sense to use "WS-15" for the export model.

And the project has been on-going for a long time. Research started way before 2000. It makes no sense to use Russian design.....

And most importantly, I believe the engine technology in China is advanced enough to be ahead of Russian now. So there is no point to borrow from an inferior technology.
 
MiG-29

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johnqh said:
I agree.

There are other holes in the story. J-10 doesn't even have WS-10 installed yet. It makes no sense to use "WS-15" for the export model.

And the project has been on-going for a long time. Research started way before 2000. It makes no sense to use Russian design.....

And most importantly, I believe the engine technology in China is advanced enough to be ahead of Russian now. So there is no point to borrow from an inferior technology.
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as far as 2011 Russia already have F-119 equivalent that has already been flown on the PAKFA: the F-135 uses technology borrowed diredtly from the YAK-141, to say it is inferior is pretty much as saying now at this moment China has a F-135 equivalent flying.
 
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MiG-29 said:
as far as 2011 Russia already have F-119 equivalent that has already been flown on the PAKFA: the F-135 uses technology borrowed diredtly from the YAK-141, to say it is inferior is pretty much as saying now at this moment China has a F-135 equivalent flying.
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I am not talking about max trust. Russian engines require too much maintenance and Chinese has adopted Western style standard on maintenance and engine life, which cannot be delivered with Russian tech.
 
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There is a rumor on FY saying that the J-20 was moved to Yanliang for higher level testing. This news coincided with the "server maintenance" on CJDBY and several other Chinese forums. Is there a chance that something really exciting is going on?
 
Deino

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Hu ... thanks for that info and sound at least possible !!

Would be interesting to get some reports from one in Chengdu. :)

Deino
 
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delft

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@MiG29:
At the Reynolds Numbers applicable to fighter aircraft it is impossible to maintain laminar flow over more than a small part of the aircraft. A circular cross section of the fuselage is not relevant.
 
Maggern

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Centrist said:
Thank you Deino, congrats on the mod job. You are a perfect fit for it.
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Can I be a bastard and agree?

siegecrossbow said:
There is a rumor on FY saying that the J-20 was moved to Yanliang for higher level testing. This news coincided with the "server maintenance" on CJDBY and several other Chinese forums. Is there a chance that something really exciting is going on?
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Well, if anything, I didn't even hope for the PLAAF to continue flying their prize around a major populated area. If they actually do, I won't complain. But I'd guess their major point would be to show off the actual capability of building and flying something like this. THe actual, boring flight-testing could take place somewhere else.
 
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