J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII
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People on one hand wonder why China has no influence in the Western media, why the West believes the most outrageous lies about China, and on the other say things like this.
If you don't defend your reputation, why should people take you seriously?
If you waste resources on unnecessary uphill battles that's clearly set up as a trap, you are a fool. Western Media had their dominance as a result of their material and military success. China does not have a global media supremacy like the US, nor does she requires such in order to rise. Right now, it's better for China to concentrate her energy in material development. Once you have the muscles, once your punch become deadly, you voice will be heard.
Media is also a double edge sword. If the Western Media keep on brainwashing their own audience with unsubstantiated lies just to hurt China's image, it will only end up hurting themselves. The power of the Media lies in its ability to speak the truth. Truth does set you free, because it gives you a solid foundation to make decision which you can predict the results thereof with a high level of confidence. Even propaganda has fundamental truth as their ground. Just look the Indians, if they blindly believe in the false Indian propaganda and think that they can easily defeat China, their people will drive their government into a war they can't win. That's an example showing the importance of truth-based media.
However, it is also true that the power of a nation also lies in how confident its people feel about the nation. For example, the US propaganda machine was in full throttle during WW2, telling people total lies like how "the G34 and G42 machine guns are all bark and no bites", like how "the Japanese kamikaze attacks are useless", all of these might technically be lies. But their motives are based on one important truth: if such propaganda could give the American people and the Allies more confidence to remain fighting, it will lead them to victory and help them overcome the Axis. So, in this sense, telling the people on your side that the enemy they are facing can be easily overcome, could consolidate the resolve on your side to continue the fight, which eventually will lead to victory.
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To put it simply, let them drown themselves in their lies, let them make the wrong decisions based on lies. And we will wait in the shadow and snatch them when they make the mistake and fall.
I don’t think that’s how persuasion works.
Guys this is the J-20 thread, not the nationalist edgelording contest thread.
Yeah I get it, but sometimes it’s best to just leave things alone (like with the wiki article). Why spend on time on petty irrelevances?
This forum is place for discussing topical content, not for bickering over nationalistic anxieties or personal posturing contests. Please keep discussion topical and not personal.
The incongruity here is they all know their lies. They don't let lies delude them when matters are serious and decisions important. On the one hand, they make up the lies to achieve certain objectives at certain levels while these lies are separated from how they really understand the situation and execute on their planning. I think it's wrong to assume these lies will come back to bite them every time.
Meanwhile these lies do genuine damage. For example the allegations leveled against Huawei or China's alleged ethnic cleansing of Uighurs supported by photos of jails in Xinjiang and the transporting of random Han Chinese prisoners who just happen to be wearing face covers. That whole operation is akin to pinning you for murder because you've once played an FPS and there's a photo of you holding a knife at a birthday party. That's basically how the US has convinced many in the Muslim world that China's actually doing some Nazi level shit on Uighurs just with a few random out of context photos and some Reddit CIA posters and proven paid stooges. The remaining genuine family members of extremists are just complaining their extremist relative was caught. There are hundreds if not thousands of Chinese Uighurs currently fighting alongside ISIS and related groups in Syria. Yes there is a cultural and political problem but ethnic cleansing accusations are blowing even the worst aspects of this social/political problem beyond proportion. Despite many being debunked, people still buy into the lie.
You're saying fighting lies isn't worthwhile? I wholeheartedly disagree, but this doesn't mean I want everyone to spend the rest of their days fighting lies. You can't win them all but you can do your bit where possible. It also doesn't mean spend all the national focus on propaganda mud slinging like them. It's not a binary. There should be some counter propaganda going after the more nefarious and high profile cases.
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