Isn't that just promotional content and claims from the manufacturer?
Do we have any actual indication or media from the PLA depicting they intend to procure it?
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Isn't that just promotional content and claims from the manufacturer?
Do we have any actual indication or media from the PLA depicting they intend to procure it?
Honestly, I have never thought that the GJ-11 would be a viable loyal wingman UCAV to the J-20s and J-16s. At least, not in the sense of air superiority role.
Despite having a stealthy design, the GJ-11 is likely neither able to fly at supersonic speeds, nor capable of engaging in intense dogfight maneuvers - Both of which requirements must be fullfilled by normal manned fighters. FH-97A looks to be much more capable in that regard, while GJ-11 is more leaning towards ground and naval strike roles like the JH-7.
By that's just my personal observation.
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Keep in mind that you can have different types of loyal wingman. You could have one that helps you take out air defense and attack ships. You can have ones that do more counter air roles. XQ-58A and MQ-28 both look to UCAVs that are designed for strike missions.
I'm not sure what they plan to do with GJ-11 yet. It's just one UCAV that could theoretically operate/controlled by J-20. I wouldn't say it's optimal in that role.
You guys are too humble. From the way factory are set up I expect 200 J-20 annually by 2027. If the number is any lower it would have been for plane of equivalent or better quality. In other words 200 J-20/new 6th gen a year.
Then you factor in J-31 production and what not. High end combat UAV supplementing J-20.
Current production of 80+ annually is just what you get when engine is domestic. It is run by original building and converted J10 building (likely not even fully converted). Then you add 2 more buildings one under construction one soon begin construction.
There will be 200 a year air to air combatant of J-20 quality or better by 2027. That 200 a year is further supported by UAV. I expect Chinese 5th quantity begin catch up to US, eventually exceed in 2030s.
Then you factor in J-31 production and what not. High end combat UAV supplementing J-20.
Current production of 80+ annually is just what you get when engine is domestic. It is run by original building and converted J10 building (likely not even fully converted). Then you add 2 more buildings one under construction one soon begin construction.
There will be 200 a year air to air combatant of J-20 quality or better by 2027. That 200 a year is further supported by UAV. I expect Chinese 5th quantity begin catch up to US, eventually exceed in 2030s.
A production rate of 200 per year is just way too many
With a 2022-2027 timeframe, you're already looking at 600+ J-20 produced in total
And at 200/yr, there's another 1000 every 5 years
200 is perfectly reasonable. US is producing 165 F35 a year and whatever number NGAD, China is only hitting parity. Meanwhile there are like 600 more F35 than J20 right now. Whatever number small lead in production rate will not be sufficient to catch up. 200+ a year is perfectly reasonable.
People like you probably don't believe in 2021 that by 2022 there will be 80+ production in 2022. And I tell you this is just the start. Engine mass production issue has only been resolved for one year. J-10 facility also only started convert this year. I am gonna say next year I expect about 100 annual production. Once the 2 more buildings are complete there will be 4, it will be 200 a year. That is assuming efficiency scales linearly, China does not innovate more efficient production.
Should your prediction comes true, US would defeat China easily without firing a single shot. It’s the same trick against Soviet Union.
In the mid to high tech areas, it’s China against almost the whole western world. It would not be wise for China to get into a large scale arm race, unless China has gained a decisive technical lead over US and its allies.
its actually opposite. China's rise frustrated the US hence they are spending and spending. China playing the same trick what US did with USSR. indeed US can spend with ease but it is very unhealthy in near future coz of mounting debt.
you are so wrong about China. they still spend friction of their GDP on defense sector.
China's industrial output can dwarf entire western world. China have more money than entire western world bar USA. USSR didn't have that luxury so please comparing China with USSR is an insult of China.
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Wrong. China is doing what they currently is doing while spending less % of gdp. If US want to arm race they will be the one going the fate of soviet union. But that is off topic.
The 200 per year by 2027 is not unreasonable. It could come at cost of less flanker and J10 produced, but it is very achievable.
Jesus man. You are comparing single engine medium fighters to twin engine heavy ones. China certainly does not need as many twin engine heavy fighters. It will not be cost effective for one.
The Soviets made a big mistake in the 1980s going with twin jets for both the medium and heavy fighter program i.e. MiG-29 and Su-27. It turned out the MiG-29 was almost the same price as the Su-27 with way less capability. The Russians ended up buying slightly more Su-27s and not buying any MiG-29s. It is simply not cost effective for China to have that many heavy fighters. Now, what I could get, was if Chengdu was expanding production to produce some twin-seater variant of J-20 to replace the Su-30MKK or some of the J-16s even.
Just think about it. Twice as many engines means roughly twice as many parts. A lot of the parts in larger engines scale up in size but do not scale up in number of operations to produce the engine. At most it might take longer to make larger turbine blades but that is about it.
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