J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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zbb

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I think what @no_name talked about was the wing root, while you are talking about the DSI "bump". There is no professional name for it, people call it (DSI) bump.

I agree, the change to the bump is very obvious. Here is the comparison. The bump on J-20 has metal ridge in the middle. J-20S has the frame around it without the middle ridge. J-20's bump seems to be constructed as part of the fuselage, while J-20S seems to have it as an separate piece mounted.

There is also another change to the inlet lip just before the hexagon panel. In J-20S there is a black patch unpainted or uncovered. I don't know if it is a change or it is merely in a stage before being fully painted. I have never seen any J-20 in yellow primer having that.
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The small gray double hexagon behind the dragon insignia on the J-20 pic also moved to the outside of the intake below the large hexagon panel in the J-20s. Are these double hexagons covering some transmitter or receiver?
 

taxiya

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I am not expert, can't tell for sure.
What are some possible reasons for the change? Is the use of composite material in that area based on stealth considerations?
likely, it is the same treatment that all leading edges and corners are covered by grey skins. These skins likely have EM characteristic that aid absorbing incoming radio waves. IMO they are meta-materials.

The small gray double hexagon behind the dragon insignia on the J-20 pic also moved to the outside of the intake below the large hexagon panel in the J-20s. Are these double hexagons covering some transmitter or receiver?
Good observation, I missed that. It must be some transceivers or sensors, otherwise it can not be easily moved from the forward fuselage to the intake tip.
 

zbb

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Could some of the changes in use of composite materials from J-20 to J-20S (DSI and actuator bumps) be due to lower stealth requirements for the two-seat version? Enlarging the cockpit to add the second seat likely have significant adverse effects on stealth, so some of the small stealth optimizations used for single-seat J-20 may no longer makes sense economically.
 

siegecrossbow

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Could some of the changes in use of composite materials from J-20 to J-20S (DSI and actuator bumps) be due to lower stealth requirements for the two-seat version? Enlarging the cockpit to add the second seat likely have significant adverse effects on stealth, so some of the small stealth optimizations used for single-seat J-20 may no longer makes sense economically.

What makes you think that the twin seater has lower stealth requirement? If anything it would be superior to the single seater since it is able to take advantage of a lot of new tech not present when the single seater’s design was frozen.
 
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