J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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latenlazy

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Since we now have official length and wingspan numbers for the J-20 we can calculate the J-20's actual reference wing area. To do this I basically divided the reference wing area in half into two congruent trapezoids (formed by the leading edge and trailing edge lines drawn all the way to the centerline of the fuselage), and used the trapezoid area formula ((a+b)/2)*h. For the total length of the aircraft in the picture I measured ~334 pixels. I measured the length of side a to be ~168 pixels, and side b to be ~24 pixels. Using 21.2m as the real length, side a = (168/334)*21.2 m = 10.66 m. Side b = (24/334)*21.2m = 1.52 m. The height h in this case is half the wingspan, which using the given 13.1m would make h = 6.55 m. ((10.66+1.52)/2)*6.55 = 39.89 m^2. Double that for the total wing area and you get 79.78 m^2. Obviously these measurements aren't perfect so attach some error bars to the calculation, but more or less the J-20 seems to be within ballpark of the F-22's wing area, if not slightly bigger.

 

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by78

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I get a lower 77.5 m^2 if you use the center aircraft (less longitudinal distortion) as opposed to the aircraft in the front. So you have roughly the same wing area as the F-22, except the F-22 is a tailed unstable aircraft.

Tail vs canard: in unstable parts of flight regime, canards subtract lift, tails add lift, in stable parts of flight regime, canards add lift, tails subtract lift. Once again, we go back to the J-20 being designed for high-speed maneuvering as opposed to low-speed maneuvering, or the canards being used to enhance high-speed cruise lift at the cost of low-speed (max turn rate ITR/STR) performance.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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I get a lower 77.5 m^2 if you use the center aircraft (less longitudinal distortion) as opposed to the aircraft in the front. So you have roughly the same wing area as the F-22, except the F-22 is a tailed unstable aircraft.

Tail vs canard: in unstable parts of flight regime, canards subtract lift, tails add lift, in stable parts of flight regime, canards add lift, tails subtract lift. Once again, we go back to the J-20 being designed for high-speed maneuvering as opposed to low-speed maneuvering, or the canards being used to enhance high-speed cruise lift at the cost of low-speed (max turn rate ITR/STR) performance.
There was an aerodynamics thread specifically set up for your "theorizing":
 
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