J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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Deino

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BUT, the fact that no one is calling the J-20s powered by WS-10 as "J-20B" and instead it's being called "J-20A" --- imo means there are only two possibilities:
1. Production J-20s powered by Al-31s are called J-20A, and production J-20s powered by WS-10s are called J-20A as well (only change being powerplant, therefore no change in variant -- per the J-11B and J-10C examples).
2. Production J-20s powered by Al-31s are called J-20, and production J-20s powered by WS-10s are called J-20A (change being powerplant and some sort of other possible internal changes in the aircraft that we are unable to externally identify).


However, I see no permutation of possibilities based on past patterns and based on what we know of J-20, for us to believe the idea that the J-20s powered by WS-10s are called "J-20B".


I fully agree and - maybe I need to work on my English :( ? - that's what i tried to tell him: There is by all understanding even if I personally would use a different system NO J-20B yet.
 

weig2000

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Consider this one of the 10th anniversary pieces. As far as I can tell, the author tries to be comprehensive and objective, although given the murkiness of the information, some points are deemed controversial or even wrong, e.g. he says J-20 has been selected by PLAN for its next-gen carrier-based aircraft.

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Consider this one of the 10th anniversary pieces. As far as I can tell, the author tries to be comprehensive and objective, although given the murkiness of the information, some points are deemed controversial or even wrong, e.g. he says J-20 has been selected by PLAN for its next-gen carrier-based aircraft.

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The author is Indian ex-military, make of that what you will, as far as likely base of knowledge is concerned.
 

banjex

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^I would say base of knowledge is fairly good compared to web amateurs and fanboys, but bias is clear, of course.

That's the problem with ex-military people on forums, I find.

For example, I used to be active on Defencetalk where the NATO ex-military were clearly competent, but obviously biased in favour of their particular view of the world. I'm not saying they're wrong—they're professionals, after all, and know more than the vast majority of us forum enthusiasts.

But sometimes, Westerners (and I count myself among their number, albeit of "eastern extraction") need reminding that there's more to the world than the West.

Just my two cents!
 

Xizor

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^I would say base of knowledge is fairly good compared to web amateurs and fanboys, but bias is clear, of course.

That's the problem with ex-military people on forums, I find.

For example, I used to be active on Defencetalk where the NATO ex-military were clearly competent, but obviously biased in favour of their particular view of the world. I'm not saying they're wrong—they're professionals, after all, and know more than the vast majority of us forum enthusiasts.

But sometimes, Westerners (and I count myself among their number, albeit of "eastern extraction") need reminding that there's more to the world than the West.

Just my two cents!
Ex military is the sort of hyper jingoists one ought to avoid.

I steer clear of anything and anyone who has an ex-mil lineage. Their opinions are loaded with bias and will lead to an overall loss of the picture.

Ex-mil ought to be viewed as Military itself. Just because they formerly held ranks doesn't mean they have abandoned their zeal, core values, outlook or ideology.

I remember a talk show in Indian media (there is a YouTube video) where an Indian Ex-mil stated that China developed J-20 and Y-20 by "copying" others.

No evidences to back those claims but all I inferred from it was that he is still doing service for the country by bashing China.

I've seen more balanced views from Amateurs and Fanboys.
 

silentlurker

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Consider this one of the 10th anniversary pieces. As far as I can tell, the author tries to be comprehensive and objective, although given the murkiness of the information, some points are deemed controversial or even wrong, e.g. he says J-20 has been selected by PLAN for its next-gen carrier-based aircraft.

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Quite a few basic errors too, when someone uses a ramjet missile as a picture of PL-15 you know their research is either from 2010 or they aren't doing any.
 

weig2000

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The author is Indian ex-military, make of that what you will, as far as likely base of knowledge is concerned.

I was aware of that. I was actually thinking of pointing that out when posting, but had decided not. Should have probably pointd out this is an Indian perspective. Among the Indian analysis, this one is probably the relatively more comprehensive and objective - this may not say much, but he did try, for instance, he points out that "Indian Air Chief Marshal B.S. Dhanoa claimed that
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could detect J-20 from “several kilometers away” is attributed to "possibly flying the J-20 with radar reflectors during peacetime for safety and training purposes." This is a huge improvement compared to the vast majority of the Indian reports. The author also tries to give a relatively balanced view on the impact of canard on stealth.

J-20 is a game-changing platform, and was bound to attract a lot of attention and response from neighboring countries and potential adversary. It's interesting to note their views occasionally. Doesn't mean we agree with them necessarily.
 
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