J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII

siegecrossbow

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It will be cool in terms of capability to see long range AAM like PL-17 carried by J-20 in beast mode.

Even in beast mode, J-20 will likely be much more stealthy than J-16 and thus could get much closer to the enemy forces before launching its AAMs. The closer the AAMs are launched, the more likely enemy planes will fall into the no-escape-zone of the missile and thus become a guaranteed kill.
If they have detachable hardpoints then you can potentially have a new combat tactic — at very long range fire PL-17 to target high value targets, ditch the hard points after the volley, and then close in using stealth mode and mop up what’s left.
 

MeiouHades

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If they have detachable hardpoints then you can potentially have a new combat tactic — at very long range fire PL-17 to target high value targets, ditch the hard points after the volley, and then close in using stealth mode and mop up what’s left.
If we can think about it, then they've probably at least tested it. Just sayin'
 

banjex

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No it's called kill chain mode. The French should be very familiar with that.
My comment was tongue in cheek but it's true the "beast mode" thing was always more about mogging airshows than practical utility.

With off board shooters like the UADFs, no stealth fighter will need to carry munitions under the wings.

Also I have nothing to do with France lol
 
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Gloire_bb

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If they have detachable hardpoints then you can potentially have a new combat tactic — at very long range fire PL-17 to target high value targets, ditch the hard points after the volley, and then close in using stealth mode and mop up what’s left.
Very old idea, but if I understand correctly, it's a surprisingly difficult engineering challenge to get it right.
 

by78

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Just a nice image, nothing more.

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taxiya

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Very old idea, but if I understand correctly, it's a surprisingly difficult engineering challenge to get it right.
I can imagine that it is the air flow. Missiles have to be forcefully pushed downwards before leaving the rack, otherwise the high speed air flow will blow it up and hit the wing or fuselage. The lauch rack (in IWB or under the wings) has such pushing devices. There is no room in the wings for such devices to eject the launch racks though. It is almost impossible.

example of free-falling launches hitting the aircraft.

 
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