J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI
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Although not directly related to the J-20 I felt that this source could provide us with a more comprehensive idea of how maneuverability at supersonic speeds is utilised.
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I doubt there are Russian companies assisting Chinese AESA development. Maybe Russian experts and engineers just like how there are Chinese experts and engineers in American defense industries, along with any other nationality e.g. with a Chinese engineer in ATF project back in the 90s.
Russian companies have not been able to field an AESA on their ships yet, let alone their fighters. Su-57 is still a work in progress as admitted even by Russian official commentary in that they wish to hold off orders until the new engine is completely ready. Certainly that is not the only factor delaying their 5th gen fighter. The other factors they don't want to mention and the keen spectators don't want to admit to themselves.
All the available indicators point to Chinese radar industry being far more mature and capable than Russia's today. Perhaps Russians have some better stuff or leapfrog technologies but when it comes to AESA, it is hard to believe Russian companies are of any assistance. Which Russian companies are involved? If they are happy to tell public figures that they are assisting Chinese AESA development and also disclose the state of their client's abilities, shouldn't these companies be well known? Phazotron or Tikhomirov have never officially stated such things and they WOULD have stated and advertised this every single minute if it were true particularly if they are happy to tell "insiders" such sensitive information about their clients.
This kind of BS propaganda is so weak and easy to see through yet so many believe it. Explains why the US is concerned with Russia's behaviour and continued efforts to wage psychological warfare on the west even though the RF no longer poses anywhere near the military or economic threat the Soviet Union once did.
This AESA business is about as believable as saying Chinese motor company is now assisting Mercedes Benz with developing their latest internal combustion engine They need to try harder with the BS in future
Russian companies have not been able to field an AESA on their ships yet, let alone their fighters. Su-57 is still a work in progress as admitted even by Russian official commentary in that they wish to hold off orders until the new engine is completely ready. Certainly that is not the only factor delaying their 5th gen fighter. The other factors they don't want to mention and the keen spectators don't want to admit to themselves.
All the available indicators point to Chinese radar industry being far more mature and capable than Russia's today. Perhaps Russians have some better stuff or leapfrog technologies but when it comes to AESA, it is hard to believe Russian companies are of any assistance. Which Russian companies are involved? If they are happy to tell public figures that they are assisting Chinese AESA development and also disclose the state of their client's abilities, shouldn't these companies be well known? Phazotron or Tikhomirov have never officially stated such things and they WOULD have stated and advertised this every single minute if it were true particularly if they are happy to tell "insiders" such sensitive information about their clients.
This kind of BS propaganda is so weak and easy to see through yet so many believe it. Explains why the US is concerned with Russia's behaviour and continued efforts to wage psychological warfare on the west even though the RF no longer poses anywhere near the military or economic threat the Soviet Union once did.
This AESA business is about as believable as saying Chinese motor company is now assisting Mercedes Benz with developing their latest internal combustion engine They need to try harder with the BS in future
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Sadly I am not surprised.
Editors will know from years of experience working with the writers what their angle and tone on a particular subject matter is going to be before he/she even writes the piece. Sadly these days that seems to be the primary consideration when deciding who gets to write a piece in western journalism as a whole.
Even the most knowledgeable experts in the field can find themselves out in the cold if their narrative does not conform to the party line the editor has been instructed to follow by the higher ups.
That is how censorship and propaganda works in the western ‘free’ media.
You don’t get editors telling journos who what write, but if your writing doesn’t conform to what the editor wants, you get cut out of the loop.
Some of the more astute and less principled journos learn to read the tea leaves and tailor their writing to suit what the editors and higher ups want, and sadly, those are the people who tend to do well in the industry.
This is what inevitably happens in any field where there are efficiently zero negative consequences to being wrong.
Well Deino. Now you do.
Exactly, and if you look at Sharpei/Brumby's excellent explanation of tier 1 sensor fusion explanation on the F-35 thread, we might have an idea of why there are so many questions about capability and data overlapping, then being fused into your network? but it seems rather obvious that China does indeed have AESA on the J-20.
The now aging phrase is "system of systems" or some such...
Well Deino. Now you do.
I remember this image quite well ... but how are we sure it is an AESA and not a PESA?
Journalism and media is a weapon and indeed weaponised long ago by many. If we can collectively come to an understanding that this is exactly what it is, perhaps there will be fewer people manipulated in whatever way a higher up wants them to be manipulated. We can start by making journalism more academic and evidence based. For far too long has fake news been allowed to propagate. It's been around long before Trump and it has been rotting away people's minds.
I think you are confusing this image (that of a J-10C) with the J-10B image. J-10B, which uses a PESA radar, has an elevated ridge in the center.
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