J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

[plawolf]

Hmm, interesting, looks like the side doors might restrict canard movement when open, with the deflection in that picture pretty much the max possible before that happens.

That is probably what prompted them to design the rail to be lockable outside the bay with missile, so the J20 could dogfight without restrictions.

SOP should be to deploy side bay missiles to external carriage prior to entering WVR combat, at which point RCS is largely irrelevant. So very much a non-issue.

 

[latenlazy]

Hmm, interesting, looks like the side doors might restrict canard movement when open, with the deflection in that picture pretty much the max possible before that happens.

That is probably what prompted them to design the rail to be lockable outside the bay with missile, so the J20 could dogfight without restrictions.

SOP should be to deploy side bay missiles to external carriage prior to entering WVR combat, at which point RCS is largely irrelevant. So very much a non-issue.

Might also help the missile get a stronger lock.

 

[Deino]

: ... but is this a real image of a real PL-10 on a real J-20?

I remember a quite amazing CG from some years ago ... need to look when I'm back home.

The original poster confirmed it as a CG/PS only ...

 

[siegecrossbow]

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Confirmed photoshop.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Hmm, interesting, looks like the side doors might restrict canard movement when open, with the deflection in that picture pretty much the max possible before that happens.

That is probably what prompted them to design the rail to be lockable outside the bay with missile, so the J20 could dogfight without restrictions.

SOP should be to deploy side bay missiles to external carriage prior to entering WVR combat, at which point RCS is largely irrelevant. So very much a non-issue.

I can with absolute certainty assure you that at no point in its travel does that door impinge on the free throw of those canards, its simply something that no designer would ever consider, NO WAY!,,, now I grant you it does look like it, but I assure you that no designer, would ever allow a door of any kind to interfere with the primary pitch control of the aircraft!

No, the side bays open and close, at no time in close combat is RCS ever irrelevant,, you're not only fighting that other fighter, you're engaged with every other fighter, and every anti aircrafts system on the ground or a vessel nearby,,, so no, that would never be SOP, you pop the doors, take the shot and beat it out of there, before you get lots of unwanted attention!

Wolfie, this is were being a pilot gives you an understanding of basic systems that someone not initiated into the flying community wouldn't understand without having it explained to them, but at NO time would a designer compromise control of the aircraft, by allowing his primary pitch control to be blocked.

 

[plawolf]

I can with absolute certainty assure you that at no point in its travel does that door impinge on the free throw of those canards, its simply something that no designer would ever consider, NO WAY!,,, now I grant you it does look like it, but I assure you that no designer, would ever allow a door of any kind to interfere with the primary pitch control of the aircraft!

No, the side bays open and close, at no time in close combat is RCS ever irrelevant,, you're not only fighting that other fighter, you're engaged with every other fighter, and every anti aircrafts system on the ground or a vessel nearby,,, so no, that would never be SOP, you pop the doors, take the shot and beat it out of there, before you get lots of unwanted attention!

Wolfie, this is were being a pilot gives you an understanding of basic systems that someone not initiated into the flying community wouldn't understand without having it explained to them, but at NO time would a designer compromise control of the aircraft, by allowing his primary pitch control to be blocked.

You are right, that angle is deceiving as the canards sit at the very end of the downward canting fuselage, and so they could not touch the doors even during total vertical deflection with the side bays open.

 

[Air Force Brat]

You are right, that angle is deceiving as the canards sit at the very end of the downward canting fuselage, and so they could not touch the doors even during total vertical deflection with the side bays open.

and here Sir, we have the Sino Defense, post of the day! you're a good man Wolfie,, honesty is the most honorable of all a man's virtue's! good job sir, and you are exactly right in your observation!

I had to look at least twice Bub! and it certainly does appear that way, but one of the J-20's real virtues are those distant coupled, long throw canards! it appears that they move through 180 degrees of travel??? maybe not, but they have an extremely long throw!

 

[Phead128]

With no visual identification, how a MKI can possible know that it’s radar has picked up a J-20?

LET'S BE HONEST HERE.

These are the same Indian Army that admitted they mistook Venus and Jupiter (planets) as "Chinese spy drones" intruding upon Indian territory for 6 months. Even complained to China about the 155 "violations" of disputed territory. LOL!!!

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Why India didn't use the much vaunted Su-30MKI radar to differentiate spy drones from planets and stars? They can detect J-20 after all! HAHAHAHA

 

[Hyperwarp]

Why are we still bickering about MKI issue?

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What is this exhibition? Is this an offician model? Those look like 2x LS-500/KAB-500L? (Edit: or LT-2/GB-1)

 

[Deino]

J-20 HMD seen again, being examined by a fellow from a PLAAF institute.

Any info on who that gentlemen is?