AssassinsMace
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Those aren't recent pics of 2013 since you can see two of them have the old stings.
J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V
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Well at the risk of being simplistic the J-20 is a very ambitious project for Chengdu, and much is riding on its success and eventual adoption, so I would suggest that as an indigenous Chinese aircraft it enjoys unprecedented political support. It seems to be moving "forward" very nicely at a very pragmatic and helpful pace and I expect to see it go LRIP very soon.
Compared to the F-35 it is of necessity going to be progressing at a slower rate as it is not as far along in its development, the F-35 is a driven project, with LOTS of MONEY and Political support, even more so than the J-20. There is a much stronger market in the general public for the F-35, as there are a great many more military enthusiasts in the general public, who have a more mature understanding of "stealth"
On the opposing hand we have the PAK-FA or T-50, again a very fine and ambitious aircraft for Sukhoi, it seems that funding is problematic for the T-50, and that several serious development snags have been impeding the forward progress as well, one of reasons (maybe the only reason?) that the Russians are now opening up this project and inviting the Indians onboard for a much more important role, and in fact are willing to taylor a version of this aircraft to the specific Indian need?
So to cap it off, the J-20 seems to enjoy broad political and popular support, as well as the engineering and finances to keep it moving forward. It seems to be meeting all the developmental milestones and performance objectives, so all in all I would say the Chinese are very tickled with their overall progress on the J-20.
I would conclude by adding that president Xi seems to have pushed this ahead of the indigenous carrier at the moment, but we shall see??
Thanks Brat, as an side effect what makes me sometimes even more wonder than the progress alone is that CAC has reached a level of being a true aerospace giant: the J-20 is probably only the tip of the iceberg, but there is the J-10 program too, serial manufacturing of J-10Bs, parts manufacturing for the PAF's JF-17 ... several UAV projects and so on !
Overall a multitude of different projects many observers never expected to be accomplished from a Chinese manufactor at the same time or at least not so soon.
Deino
Overall a multitude of different projects many observers never expected to be accomplished from a Chinese manufactor at the same time or at least not so soon.
Deino
Exactly Deino, and very well managed, with a very even tempo, good problem solving, and adaptation of the airframe to do the job at hand. This aircraft has remained very "true" to Dr. Song's stated design goals and philosophies, and I can't but help feel that somewhere his guiding hand must still be on the tiller??? Without all the minutia of common politics, this airplane seems to be a clean sheet in more ways than one??
I am hoping that in our next general election, that we will elect someone who has an appreciation for and understanding of our Chinese friends, and who will engage them on a more personal, respectful level and bring us back to a more congenial and productive relationship. I think our current crew has squandered much of the trust and understanding that our previous administration worked so hard to achieve?? We need to move forward as well.
Good thinking man, glad you think that way!
Next phase is fusion of sensors, integration of weapons, testing flights with full load and live testing of missiles/discharges. It is the most testing and critical phase. F-35 failed to complete software/sensors production/testing in timely manner. We would see if PLAAF finds the system satisfactory or points to further improvements.
Also it would depend if further design modification are needed if any problems occur during weapons testing. Electronics warfare suits would also be tested and analysed. It is consumes time and is laborious. Fixing it needs time.
May be 6 ( up to 12 in max ) J-20s would be produced to test with further modifications.
I do not see any LRIP until end of 2015. LRIP would depend upon the testing of weapons and electronic system's testing. Production of sub-systems, sensors, radars, advanced electronic programs and advanced stealth materials.
May be there is more progress in 2016-17 when LRIP would be in a forward gear.
Also it would depend if further design modification are needed if any problems occur during weapons testing. Electronics warfare suits would also be tested and analysed. It is consumes time and is laborious. Fixing it needs time.
May be 6 ( up to 12 in max ) J-20s would be produced to test with further modifications.
I do not see any LRIP until end of 2015. LRIP would depend upon the testing of weapons and electronic system's testing. Production of sub-systems, sensors, radars, advanced electronic programs and advanced stealth materials.
May be there is more progress in 2016-17 when LRIP would be in a forward gear.
Just to clarify
Production of sub-systems, sensors, radars, advanced electronic programs and advanced stealth materials would effect LRIP or any other production program.
It consumes time and is laborious to test avionics and weapons. Fixing any problems arising from these tests needs time and resources.
Production of sub-systems, sensors, radars, advanced electronic programs and advanced stealth materials would effect LRIP or any other production program.
It consumes time and is laborious to test avionics and weapons. Fixing any problems arising from these tests needs time and resources.
Would be glad if USA and China can help each other and other countries. Confrontation is bad for all other countries.
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