J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

[Blitzo]

Another (actually same but better resolution) pic of 2101, stolen from another forum . Do my old eyes deceive me, or those wheelZ look green ?

They look like the same colour as the wheels of previous J-20s, which I suppose do have a greenish tinge to them despite being grey.

I've noticed that the green colour of some previous aircraft like Flankers have been brought up before, personally I'm not sure why it's a matter of such interest.

 

[Blitzo]

Really wish we had better resolution pictures of the primer aircraft. Although given how much I was able to gleam from just that grainy image, it's understandable why the higher quality shots of it are being held back.

I am hopeful that we will get high quality pics of the aircraft during take off and landing and in flight, in all its primer glory, in due time.
The release of such photos will probably end up being delayed a while after the aircraft's actual take off, and we may have to wait a few weeks or even months for such pictures to be released if past HQ pictures are anything to go by... but pics of J-20s in primer will probably be a much more common sight in coming years as LRIP eventually transitions to full scale serial production.

 

[delft]

I am hopeful that we will get high quality pics of the aircraft during take off and landing and in flight, in all its primer glory, in due time.
The release of such photos will probably end up being delayed a while after the aircraft's actual take off, and we may have to wait a few weeks or even months for such pictures to be released if past HQ pictures are anything to go by... but pics of J-20s in primer will probably be a much more common sight in coming years as LRIP eventually transitions to full scale serial production.

More likely batch production.

 

[plawolf]

I am hopeful that we will get high quality pics of the aircraft during take off and landing and in flight, in all its primer glory, in due time.
The release of such photos will probably end up being delayed a while after the aircraft's actual take off, and we may have to wait a few weeks or even months for such pictures to be released if past HQ pictures are anything to go by... but pics of J-20s in primer will probably be a much more common sight in coming years as LRIP eventually transitions to full scale serial production.

Perhaps, but it will depend entirely on what Chinese security think is acceptable.

If they think high res pictures of J20s in primer is too much, they will make it known and the plane spotting community in China will refrain from posting such imagines.

The standard 'tease' cycle of verbal descriptions --> Highly blurred/PSed out imagines--> small, low res versions of the pictures --> medium and then high res pictures are pretty much all about testing the reaction of China's security services rather than a co-ordinated tease by the plane spotting community.

If at any point in that chain, the security services don't like what they see, they will put the word out and photos like that will simply not be shared. Anyone who breaks that edict will get invited for tea.

 

[thunderchief]

I've noticed that the green colour of some previous aircraft like Flankers have been brought up before, personally I'm not sure why it's a matter of such interest.

Informally, aircraft with green wheels are ready for operational service .

 

[taxiya]

From the new pics I gathered there is no sensory devices in the air intake bump, given the simple fact it is yellow in colour. What do u guys think?

I believe the whole-yellow paint is to conceal details of construction. Wait till 2101 get final paint.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Informally, aircraft with green wheels are ready for operational service .

Even less formally, green tires are considered ugly on Chinese military forums.

 

[Blitzo]

Informally, aircraft with green wheels are ready for operational service .

I must have missed the memo for that, since when did green wheels signify operational service, informally or otherwise?

Because I just checked the Chinese air force's combat aircraft just now and the only aircraft with green wheels are the Q-5 variants, J-7 variants, and flanker variants... And even then not every wheel is green, e.g. J-7s only have the forward wheel green while the aft ones are not, vice versa for flankers.
J-8 variants, JH-7 variants, J-10 variants, JF-17, on the other hand all never have been seen with green wheels either in service or in prototype stage, as far as I am aware.
J-20 doesn't have green wheels for its prototypes either so it is doubtful its wheel colour will somehow change once it enters service.

In other words, I believe there is no evident to say green wheels in Chinese air force fighters represents "operational service" because there are so many types of aircraft in service without green wheels. It would be more accurate to say a few types of aircraft on service (flankers, J-7s and Q-5s) have green wheels.
I also believe there is no evidence to suggest that wheel colour changes between prototypes and in service aircraft. I have not seen such a thing occur for previous aircraft projects and I have no reason to believe it will be the case for J-20.

 

[Blitzo]

Perhaps, but it will depend entirely on what Chinese security think is acceptable.

If they think high res pictures of J20s in primer is too much, they will make it known and the plane spotting community in China will refrain from posting such imagines.

The standard 'tease' cycle of verbal descriptions --> Highly blurred/PSed out imagines--> small, low res versions of the pictures --> medium and then high res pictures are pretty much all about testing the reaction of China's security services rather than a co-ordinated tease by the plane spotting community.

If at any point in that chain, the security services don't like what they see, they will put the word out and photos like that will simply not be shared. Anyone who breaks that edict will get invited for tea.

Yes, I'm aware that the authorities could very well prohibit release of HQ photos if they wished, however I believe that they may likely allow it.

Given the high quality of photos we've already seen of the J-20s in grey, seeing J-20 in primer won't actually add that much to our comprehension of the plane, beyond merely being able to see panel lines a little clearer and identifying grey parts around the aircraft which may indicate antennae and avionics fairings.

 

[plawolf]

Yes, I'm aware that the authorities could very well prohibit release of HQ photos if they wished, however I believe that they may likely allow it.

Given the high quality of photos we've already seen of the J-20s in grey, seeing J-20 in primer won't actually add that much to our comprehension of the plane, beyond merely being able to see panel lines a little clearer and identifying grey parts around the aircraft which may indicate antennae and avionics fairings.

Possibly, but would any of us been able to spot the possible wing mounted L-band radar on even the highest quality J20 pictures with full camouflage?

Who knows what other nuggets of detail and insight truly hi res primer shots might reveal, especially if they get to production stage and don't bother to cover everything in yellow primer before rolling the birds out of the shops.

The Chinese security services may well decide hi res primer shots don't reveal enough to warrant blanket banning, or they might. Which is the point. It's not a given that every leak will follow the normal trend because that trend developed for this precise reason.