Thanks for the concern buddy!
I went to Hong Kong and subsequently a city called Shantou in Guang Dong province to visit my friend!
J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)
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Thanks for the concern buddy!
I went to Hong Kong and subsequently a city called Shantou in Guang Dong province to visit my friend!
Awesome, sounds like fun, but we are glad you are back, and just in time to get in on the ground floor, I was worried about you, kinda like one of the kids being out and not knowing how they are?? So how was Guang Dong, and did you get any kind of feel for public opinion about the J-20? or Liaoning???
just wondering what sense most Chinese feel about these two top end military endeavors, are they proud, indifferent?? feel free to use your own sense to kind of frame their thoughts?
I wasn't able to really talk to the local people as they speak a dialet that I can't understand, haha. But on the Chinese Internet I'd say from my observation most people are either proud or at least happy for such military developments
Sorry guys, but can we please leave out all reports from this "source" ??? It is in regard to Chinese Military as reliable as the German "BILD" () in regards to the German foreign policy.
Even if I agree with the guesswork, that the J-20 might have entered limited serial production ... I'm sure we are still far away from "mass production".
Deino
Please don't look at "Want China Times". This article too is rubbish. There will never be "Mass production of ready-to-fly J-20s". Chinese fighters like J-10 and J-11 are built in batches of about twenty and there is no reason to imagine that J-20's will be built as if they are motor cars.
Exactly, and the many posts and pictures of the J-15 in batch production, have reminded me to keep my expectations real in regard to what to expect as the J-20 enters LRIP, small batches initially, and larger batches as the design is tightened up and production facilities are expanded to meet demand...... now this does not mean that if Chengdu gets the go ahead that they will be unable to meet the demand. Chinese factories are very efficient, and well able to produce modern, very high quality equipment, the J-20 is just a little larger piece of equipment, and there is little doubt the design of the J-20 is maturing and is very close to the airplane that they want to build??? None actually.
Janes made a new report about the J-20's recent development and protoype 2015. though the "asian government" claim that China will get 24 J-20s before 2020 that they refer seems speculative.
Analysis: End of year surge for Chengdu J-20 fighter programme
Richard D Fisher Jr, Washington, DC - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
06 January 2015
Chinese aircraft spotters responsible for early internet photos report that the latest J-20 prototype, 2015, made its maiden flight from the CAC airfield on 18 December. Source: Chinese internet
In November and December 2014 two additional prototypes of the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation's (CAC) J-20 fifth-generation fighter emerged, advancing its development towards a possible initial operational capability (IOC) of 2017-18.
The J-20 programme currently features six known prototypes. Two are early technology development articles (serial numbers 2001 and 2002) that emerged in 2009 and 2010, while four are modified versions closer to operational prototypes (serial numbers 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2015) that all emerged in 2014.
No prototype numbered 2014 has yet to appear and may not, given the traditional Chinese view that four is an unlucky number.
A detail of the strakes on the latest J-20 prototype, 2015. (Chinese internet)
Chinese aircraft spotters responsible for early internet photos report that the latest prototypes, 2013 and 2015, made their maiden flights from the CAC airfield on 29 November and 18 December 2014 respectively.
Both have most of the refinements seen on aircraft 2011, which emerged in February 2014: cropped canards and vertical stabilisers, a modified air intake, modified wing leading-edge extensions, and a new electro-optical targeting system (EOTS) under the nose.
However, 2013 and 2015 lack the nose-mounted pitot tubes that featured on the earlier prototypes. In addition, number 2015 has longer and sharper-shaped rear-fuselage horizontal strakes. Although this aft surface does not appear to be movable, it may contribute to aircraft stability, as a similar - though movable - surface did for the Grumman X-29 technology demonstrator.
A view of the latest J-20 prototype, 2015, which made its maiden flight from the CAC airfield on 18 December. (Chinese internet)
Early internet-sourced images have also emerged of the J-20's retractable refuelling probe, placed on the upper starboard of the nose. The development status of an indigenous Chinese turbofan for the J-20, often referred to as the WS-15, remains unknown. There is speculation that early J-20 examples may use a version of the Russian Saturn AL-31 turbofan.
In April 2014 an Asian government source told IHS Jane's that China would have 24 J-20s by 2020, which if realised, could constitute a first operational regiment. This would indicate that IOC may occur in the 2017-18 timeframe.
Rick fisher does yes toward speculation, but he is definitely a better western commentator than most others.
As for having 24 J-20s before 2020, it is definitely something I won't rule out myself. We should see how many more prototypes or LRIP units are built in this coming year
As for having 24 J-20s before 2020, it is definitely something I won't rule out myself. We should see how many more prototypes or LRIP units are built in this coming year
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