J-15 carrier fighter thread

[antiterror13]

good video, just out

 

[Blitzo]

good video, just out

What's good about it?

Specifically, is there anything in it that has footage which hasn't already been posted, or any information which we are not already aware of?

 

[antiterror13]

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[gelgoog]

Eurasia Naval Insight is a YT channel by forum member @5unrise . The video has nothing new to forum members here but is a nice summary of the most relevant information. We typically link sparingly to video content in the forum though.

 

[Blitzo]

Eurasia Naval Insight is a YT channel by forum member @5unrise . The video has nothing new to forum members here but is a nice summary of the most relevant information. We typically link sparingly to video content in the forum though.

I am aware, I am challenging antiterror why they were posting it, specifically because it has information we all know about, and asking him to justify it a little bit.

As you said, in general, "informational" YouTube videos about the PLA are not that welcome on this forum.
One particular reason is because "informational" videos in general can sometimes be erroneously perceived as more "official" or "informative" being a video medium, whereas in reality they should warrant a more careful approach.

OTOH, if one actually finds those videos useful, then it may reflect the ability of the viewer's tracking of PLA matters in general which is fine as well but then at least flag it.

 

[vincent]

A few things..

First, I'm not sure I trust lyman's interpretation of things in general, his reputation isn't exactly Yankee, to put it gently.

Second, the part being quoted sounds like the J-15B designation is being stated here by the "expert" due to it being used in western media (which ironically may have been driven by our own use of the designation J-15B including in social media and in some publications including some of my diplomat articles before), but it doesn't seem like a fully official designation yet.

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玉渊谭天 is an alt CCTV account

 

[Blitzo]

玉渊谭天 is an alt CCTV account

Is it on the calibre of proper CCTV though?
There are lots of state media whose mileage may vary -- if a designation was stated on the official CCTV website or broadcasted primary CCTV show/documentary, that would be one thing.

Putting it another way, are we confident enough in this particular outlet to use it as a basis for "confirming" the designation of this aircraft? I personally don't see it yet.

 

[vincent]

Is it on the calibre of proper CCTV though?
There are lots of state media whose mileage may vary -- if a designation was stated on the official CCTV website or broadcasted primary CCTV show/documentary, that would be one thing.

Putting it another way, are we confident enough in this particular outlet to use it as a basis for "confirming" the designation of this aircraft? I personally don't see it yet.

He is a frontline CCTV reporter that has written articles with fairly official viewpoints.

Example:

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He was at this year’s Shangri-La Dialogue.

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美国印太司令部司令叫塞缪尔·帕帕罗，谭主在今年6月的香格里拉对话会上见过他。

 

[dxq4412]

Here are some official media accounts that you can follow in Weibo or Weixin or Douyin：

玉渊潭天 Yuyuantan Tian: CCTV News

陶然笔记 Taoran Notes: Economic Daily

朝阳少侠 Chaoyang Shaoxia: Ministry of Foreign Affairs

侠客岛 Xiaoke Island: People's Daily/Overseas Edition Editorial Department of People's Daily

补壹刀 Bu Yidao: People's Daily/Global Times

枢密院十号 Shumiyuan No.10: People's Daily/Global Times

长安街知事 Chang'an Street News: Beijing Daily

政知见 Politics Insight: Beijing Youth Daily

团结湖参考 Tuanjiehu Reference: Beijing Youth Daily

钧正平 Junzhengping (homophonic for 军正评): Official Media of the Political Department of the People's Liberation Army

青蜂侠 Bee Video: China Youth Network

市说新语 Market Talk: State Administration for Market Regulation

 

[Blitzo]

He is a frontline CCTV reporter that has written articles with fairly official viewpoints.

Example:

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He was at this year’s Shangri-La Dialogue.

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美国印太司令部司令叫塞缪尔·帕帕罗，谭主在今年6月的香格里拉对话会上见过他。

Okay, and do we think it is sufficiently official for us to use that article as a way to "call it" for confirming the J-15B designation?

Keeping in mind the use of the designation in the writeup is adjacent to describing foreign/western media's reporting of it which opens the possibility that they are using a term that has circulated on the English language side.