Consensus seems to be WS-10.
It's WS-10s. Called it before (few weeks ago IIRC)
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Agreed. It's almost surely.
I would love to agree, but I'm still a bit sceptical!
Consensus seems to be WS-10.
It's WS-10s. Called it before (few weeks ago IIRC)
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Agreed. It's almost surely.
Skeptical how might I ask? AL-31s are darker without the WS-10's obvious silver tint (AL-31s sometimes almost look like something straight out of the bronze age).
Another hint is that the nozzles doesn't extend beyond the horizontal tails. J-15B with AL-31s have nozzles that protrudes beyond the horizontal stabs, while the WS-10s are shorter and ends before the tails.
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Consensus seems to be WS-10.
Could be a WS-10 with a different, longer set of nozzles for testing?. Though to be honest, it looks a lot like the AL-31 in the way they are narrowed down
The point is, you are again using the images from the video we saw some weeks ago and here I agree, it's a WS-10, however here ... I'm not entirely sure to open the bottle of Champagne already.
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Looks like Al-31 to me when looking at nozzle length.
I reckon it's lighting, angle and quality. AL-31s are quite long. If you look closer, it's definitely shorter than AL-31s.View attachment 135201View attachment 135202
We do know that at least one J-15B uses WS-10s though.I'm of the feeling that until we have proper quality imagery confirming that J-15B is using WS-10s, it's important to not circulate the idea that J-15B may be using them.
Sure, this photo is too blurry to be completely certain. But might I add pessimistically too, misconceptions surrounding PLA equipments are so widespread they're like weeds. You can't completely root them out. They'll always spread faster than you can correct them, regardless of what you do. Being cautious? They'll simply hear it from another source. Corrections will need to be circulated regardless.Preemptively pulling the trigger without confirmation just leads to a risk of having to then circulate corrections if people outside of this forum start thinking that J-15B is using WS-10s.
Obviously. But there already exists images that confirms that at least one J-15B uses WS-10s. The most important question is whether they'll come with in the production aircrafts, but no one is claiming that yet.There really is no harm at all in waiting for actual better images, even if it takes months or a few more years.
We do know that at least one J-15B uses WS-10s though.
Unless you plan on suggesting somehow the engines on that airframe were still AL-31 and the nozzles were shortened significantly for whatever reason.
It's obviously an entirely different thing to suggest production models will definitely use WS-10s. I'm not saying that.
Sure, this photo is too blurry to be completely certain. But might I add pessimistically too, misconceptions surrounding PLA equipments are so widespread they're like weeds. You can't completely root them out. They'll always spread faster than you can correct them, regardless of what you do. Being cautious? They'll simply hear it from another source. Corrections will need to be circulated regardless.
Being cautious for the sake of accuracy is entirely understandable and good, but justifying it as to stop the spread of misinformation is simply, and I quote a Chinese idiom, "wrapping fire in a paper."
Obviously. But there already exists images that confirms that at least one J-15B uses WS-10s. The most important question is whether they'll come with in the production aircrafts, but no one is claiming that yet.