asif iqbal
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003 will have ski jump ?
Another Ulyanovsk?
Another Ulyanovsk?
J-15 carrier fighter thread
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@Asif: this is the version with the strengthened nose gear to be launched by cats.This guy (LIANG WU JIU) claimed the CATOBAR J-15s have entered service.
Attached photos look old, but it makes sense since CATOBAR version can operate both on CV-16/17 and the coming 003.
danielchin
Junior Member
apologize I didn't articulate myself well enough, what I meant was the new CATOBAR version J-15s can work on both CV-16/17 (Skip jump) and 003 (steam or EMALS catapult) while the current can't.
This guy (LIANG WU JIU) claimed the CATOBAR J-15s have entered service.
Attached photos look old, but it makes sense since CATOBAR version can operate both on CV-16/17 and the coming 003.
That would be a bit of a surprise considering the first prototype only supposedly first took off in mid July last year, and for the type to enter service in any meaningful initial capacity in only a year and a couple of months would be rather hard to believe.
If this is true, I wonder whether it means the catapult J-15 variant has begun to enter service in any meaningful numbers -- i.e.: whether it is merely a few prototypes which exist and which have "entered service" as part of the Navy's own internal trials or something, or whether a batch of J-15 catapult variants have actually been produced.
There is also the question of whether the catapult J-15 variant uses the same class of avionics as the current J-15s in service, or whether they use more advanced avionics like AESA etc, like of the J-16 generation.
Does this liang wujiu fellow have a track record of reliability or anything?
That said, I strongly agree with the idea for the Navy to rapidly standardize all new production of J-15s to a catapult variant as soon as practically possible -- after all catapult compatible J-15s will be able to operate from both STOBAR and CATOBAR carriers, but ski jump J-15s will only be able to operate from STOBAR carriers but be unable to take off from CATOBAR carriers.
danielchin
Junior Member
Not sure but this guy got 1,455,781 fans in Weibo, definitely not a nobody...
I just read in another forum that the term "deployed" is much overrated, since he most likely meant merely "on board the Liaoning" for further testing.
Otherwise I deem this highly unlikly if not impossible: We know that in the meantime the J-11B is back in production + the J-16-manufacturing under way. We haven't heard anything nor seen any new-build J-15 at SAC since some time and "being deployed" would mean it is in production with already test finished, certified + a meaningful number built.
IMO all together unlikely.
Deino
What is there to test on a CATOBAR j-15 that isn't on a STOBAR J-15 that the catapult-less Liaoning can test better than a ground test facility?
Arrested landings at sea, and general STOBAR carrier tests and trials.
Except for the catapult launch...the new J-15s can be tested to their hearts content aboard the Liaoning...and should be.
Testing traps at sea is better than doing so on land. The land mass is not moving and heaving up and down several feet, or moving with the wind and waves and currents to the side either. This happens with a ship board landing and can be done with the Liaoning as well as the newer CATOBAR carrier whenever it comes out.
The only thing they cannot test is the cat launch...and they will need cats to do that...which I believe the next carrier China launches will have.
Testing traps at sea is better than doing so on land. The land mass is not moving and heaving up and down several feet, or moving with the wind and waves and currents to the side either. This happens with a ship board landing and can be done with the Liaoning as well as the newer CATOBAR carrier whenever it comes out.
The only thing they cannot test is the cat launch...and they will need cats to do that...which I believe the next carrier China launches will have.